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In 8 years driving I have been RBT'd 6 times and RDT's 0 times on the road. Not enough in my opinion. I have been let past RBT's about 6 times as well, but considering I do 50,000kms a year I don't think coming across RBt's less than twice a year is enough. For the work topic, I have noticed at some places the punishment depends on the employee. A hard working employee who is seen as cooperative can blow mid range for alcohol or show up ice in their system and the company will assist them in getting clean. An employee with a bad rep can blow below 0.05 on the breath test and lose their job instantly. |
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My workplace has a strict no tolerance policy for drug & alcohol testing as we are bound by the Rail Safety Act (Vic).
I am an authorised tester & have my equipment with me 24/7 as I can be called out at any time. I have been requested to perform testing by some of our biggest clients. I've only had 2 non negative samples in over 4 years. For those that are caught out in my industry I have absolutely no sympathy as they know what the requirements are when they do their training. I want to have the confidence to know I am working with people who are not going to endanger myself, my staff & our clients when we are working. My staff are either given a first & final warning or instant dismissal depending on the circumstances. Last edited by Pinkbits; 11-12-2015 at 10:53 PM. |
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I've been tested 4 times Driving the Truck, each time I was stopped for about 10mins, tops. As for the Smoke and Mirrors, my 18yo granddaughter has told me in the last month 3 people she knows have been tested here in town.
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Last Sunday the dude with long dreadlocks in front of me was selected for a "random" drug test and I was only breath tested. So I think their "random" tests are a little more targeted than we are led to believe. If you're not getting drug test roadside it's probably because you appear to me an upstanding member of our community. If you are getting tested all the time, maybe it's time for a haircut and some new threads. |
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Typical union rubbish right there!
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Join Date: Feb 2005
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and those with serious drug problems they would have to eventually try and rehabilitate = more money , so its easier and cheaper to bluff the public and not upset the apple cart with the commercials and just find one or two at the occasional random drug testing and look good on the telly.... oh we are doing something . |
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I work now for NSW rural local government. It is much better than the years of putting up with inner city community. least you get a little warning and its mostly mental patients.
Last year there was much discussion about internal testing. The discussion was that the outdoor staff was infavour it was the casual indoor staff from the holliday community that was against. I know of dismissal for alcohol and drugs, But it came under the guise of loss of drivers licence for more than 12 months or being locked up. Other cases resulted in assist with rehab and counselling. Originally Posted by MDS69 ![]() With the company I work for there is scope for drug and alcohol testing. According to the EBA if an employee tests positive to an illict substance then the company must assist with rehab and counselling. Obviously the employee must be a willing participant in this process. If the employee won't cooperate well then I guess there is scope to terminate employment but this can't happen up front. Much in the media about faulty drug testing. I have encountered many cases of suspect alcohol testing procedures in my driving life and see no different with drug testing in its early period. Having worked with large numbers of functioning drunk and pot heads I never felt at risk. self medicating mentally ill and party druggies are more of a life risk. Most supervisors are looking for that test that will be able to yes or no with no legal come back.
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I also feel the police and pollies are fudging the numbers. Don't get me wrong, 1 person driving drug effected is 1 too many. But, they say that 1 in 6 drivers tested fails the test. The pollies and the media then pick up on this claiming that 1 in 6 drivers is drug driving. But I don't believe that's the case because police are targeting their testing at people they suspect to be drug users, and a lot of cops would be pretty good at guessing who may be on and who isn't. I don't think true random roadside testing would get anywhere near 1 in 6 but also don't have an issue with police having some discretion on who they test. |
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Also a lot of people might be driving at the times police don't target, that's why you wouldn't be getting tested often. Because RBTs are usually set up early hours of the mornings or after 5:30pm into the night. But in holiday season then anytime really.
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3 people in 3 months is still very low number. Just think about how many people your grand daughter knows who drivers and she knows of 3 people in 3 months to be drug tested still sounds low number. |
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I have seen heaps of RBT's at all times of the day, but the drug testers I have seen a few times and that is it.
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It is a unionised EBA so you hit the nail on the head with our drug testing policy.
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Whilst they're waiting for test results they can serve other 'clients', they don't (or shouldn't) wait for the result before doing more.
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All the drug test sites I have seen are the same. The officer test one person at a time. Stands next to the car and waits. |
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Why would you want to? I wouldn't have thought that they come under the title of 'Drug testers at work and job losses'
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Back home the vast majority of jobs require a drug test prior to employment, and many many workplaces run regular 'random' tests. |
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Give welfare recipients their money via a card which can only be used for buying essentials. (this card/system has a name but I can't think of it ![]()
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Yeah but the desperados swap their cards for the good stuff and the dealers then sell the cards at a discount price to "legit" shoppers
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RBT's are pretty easy for police to do and hardly take any time, I would like to see them more often. |
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were I work most boys have had a billy or a pipe before rocking up to work, cause it's middle of boganville I guess
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