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04-03-2014, 12:09 PM | #31 | ||
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Turning circle? Not as huge a difference as one might think...certainly surprised us how nimble such a long vehicle is.
Triton twin cab: 12 mtr turning circle, FG Falcon: 11 meters. Then again, we often found that the "effective turning circle" was larger with the G6E, as you had to be extremely careful of graunching the nose on kerbs of even fairly medium sloped gutters, so the "11 meters" might be a little conservative. Servicing is about the same as the non-fixed price servicing on a Falcon as well, and consumables are roughly the same price. Owning a four wheel drive isn't the massive extra cost impost it once was. |
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04-03-2014, 12:27 PM | #32 | ||
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04-03-2014, 12:30 PM | #33 | ||
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Not in the later ones. The PX ranger has a lot more room in the rear then an PK.
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04-03-2014, 12:38 PM | #34 | |||
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As for servicing, our XR6T is on average $100 per service cheaper than the Ranger. Last edited by naddis01; 04-03-2014 at 12:48 PM. |
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04-03-2014, 12:47 PM | #35 | ||
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04-03-2014, 12:51 PM | #36 | ||
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Is it true there are no air vents in the back?
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04-03-2014, 12:56 PM | #37 | ||
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We did a few big trips in the family Hilux crew cab as a kid, they really are pretty much indestructible and can do pretty much anything. Folks bought it brand new and its coming up on 500 now with almost nothing but regular servicing. The only complaint would be leaf springs on long trips can be a pita after a while, especially for the poor kids sitting in the back.
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04-03-2014, 02:10 PM | #38 | ||
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I can't understand paying more for a vehicle that is positively worse in nearly every way.
Hell, even an E-Series Falcon is more refined than a dual cab 4x4. Less features, higher service costs, higher rego cost, more expensive tyres, no boot, slower, worse handling, rougher ride, harder to park, larger turning circle, less interior space than a camry. All for a G6E Turbo price? NO THANKS! Reference: Over the last half a dozen years I've had a Ranger, two tritons and two hiluxes for work, all new. All 4x4 dual cab diesels. All thoroughly agricultural and devoid of comfort, pace and refinement.
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04-03-2014, 02:20 PM | #39 | |||
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Interior space isn't too bad these days. A few small compromises for quite a few benefits! It's nice to go off road knowing you have a relatively capable car. |
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04-03-2014, 02:24 PM | #40 | ||
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All this talk about "huge" turning circle, my GMC Sierra was 14M, the same as the F350 of the same year.
Its not an issue unless you plan on driving it through the CBD and you can just mount gutters and drive over them anyway given how high these dual cab utes are. |
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04-03-2014, 02:45 PM | #41 | |||
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04-03-2014, 03:44 PM | #42 | |||
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Some things are correct but less interior space than a Camry? Not in the new ones. Here is me in a new Colorado and I'm 195cm |
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04-03-2014, 04:18 PM | #43 | ||
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For a family of rednecks maybe? Not me.
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04-03-2014, 04:35 PM | #44 | |||
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04-03-2014, 05:06 PM | #45 | ||
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04-03-2014, 05:54 PM | #47 | |||
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Tyres? Depends what you choose and for what purpose, but the 19" tyres on our G6E were pretty crippling unless you were prepared to order something cheaper and wait for it to be delivered, seeing as how we don't live in a capital city. Also, you can get years out of a set of fourbie tyres because of the deep tread. "Comfort, pace, and refinement". Comfort, on city roads and southern highways, I will give you. But if you buy a twin cab expecting "pace" (as some road testers seem to expect), then it's the wrong car for you. "Cost" depends hugely on what you're buying. Toyotas are excellent but seriously overpriced, full stop. Tritons are the bargain of the quality twin cab bunch. Ranger too is excellent, but to get a reasonable level of trim, yes, you're paying G6E prices. Also, an E series Falcon could not go half the places and get back again that even a two wheel drive twin cab can go. Horses for courses...but it's hard to ignore the carrying capacity of a twin cab. Not to mention towing...and no, no one buys V8 sedans to tow the stereotypical "horse floats and big boats" anymore. they buy four wheel drives. Peoples needs and wants are changing...which is why Falcon and Commodore are going down the gurgler. |
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04-03-2014, 07:03 PM | #48 | ||
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Unless you are going to use the tray, dont bother. I don't care how much plasti-chrome they chuck on the front they still are ladder-chassis, drum brake equipped pieces of Thai crap. The engines are transmission are yesteryear, the bodies are tinfoil and the high centre of gravity and rubbery steering makes them awful to drive and staggeringly overpriced in this country.
Get a Grand Cherokee and enjoy the drive, otherwise buy an old $500 Kingswood and you will have something that you don't mind scratching off road and yet is still better built, more comfortable and better driving than a modern dual cab. Having said all that, I grin and bear it, they are practical and I have to drive them extensively at work so a free vehicle is a free vehicle, |
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04-03-2014, 07:10 PM | #49 | |||
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Maybe but the overwhelming majority of Australians might tend to disagree with you considering the number that get sold every month. And what do you class as a family car these days, hell years ago the VW bettle and Leyland Mini's where family cars. A family car can be anything that suits your family
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You may have missed my posts in the past about the ML Triton I had which went back for warranty 3 times. It had so many warranty troubles I thought it might have been a BA Falcon in a former life. And that's exactly it. But I put it to you all that a large portion of people who have a 4WD only do so because they've been sold the idea of a 'new magical outdoorsy lifestyle previously denied to them' by advertising.
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04-03-2014, 07:54 PM | #51 | ||
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what are these like?
Jeep Wrangler unlimited overlander/rubicon i was thinking about looking at one but not sure about them. i know they are tough. i like how the all the doors and roof come off. Last edited by dirtyclevo; 07-03-2014 at 07:58 PM. |
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04-03-2014, 07:59 PM | #52 | ||
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My XLT has a better turning circle than my missus Focus ST.....
They are 'big' but really not THAT big. Certainly not a reason to avoid buying that's for sure, My missus is 5,1 she doesn't like driving it because it 'feels huge', and compared to a Focus it certainly is. Realistically, a 10 minute drive and she's all sorted.
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04-03-2014, 08:03 PM | #53 | |||
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Colorado was my second choice, as they were good value on price when I looked 14 months ago. I thought paying extra was worth buying the Ranger & have no regrets. Last edited by Itsme; 04-03-2014 at 08:12 PM. |
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04-03-2014, 08:32 PM | #54 | ||
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04-03-2014, 09:54 PM | #56 | ||
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you can also auomate any hard lids (for the missus)
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05-03-2014, 12:45 AM | #58 | |||
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Guessing that you've driven Hiluxes and Tritons, Ranger and Amarok are completely different beasts. Last edited by wranger; 05-03-2014 at 12:57 AM. |
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05-03-2014, 05:56 AM | #59 | |||
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Only problem with a dual cab is wrestling the keys away from my mrs :-) . New generation of dual cabs are much improved vehicles even if not quite as refined as a good sedan . It really depends on your lifestyle , if you are active person who likes to get out, ride bikes , surf , kayak or own dogs or even all of the above :-) dual cab can do it all ...if you just want to drive around the city , from and to work etc . sedan might be a better choice. Last edited by SumoDog68; 05-03-2014 at 06:15 AM. |
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05-03-2014, 08:34 AM | #60 | |||
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However all Jeep Wranglers are like a mid 90's Camry inside. Designed specifically to be hosed out after day 4 x 4ing in the mud but that makes for a fairly rough and ready on bitumen experience. They are not quiet or refined in the slightest. I would recommend a good long test drive in tarmac if you are considering one for a daily family commuter. If its adventure you want however, you are looking at the right rig.
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