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it is obvious that many are missing the point gtxb67 is making (trying to make).
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it seems like you haven't read my posts not many people on the road are innocent, yet people continue to blame everyone else for every problem. i, on the other hand am willing to except that although i always try and drive safely, an accident of any magnitude is potentially only a heartbeat away. i am sure that everyone who has been in an accident still thinks they are as perfect as you seem to think you are |
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The critically injured driver of one of these vehicles has now died in hospital.
Irrespective of what they were driving this fatal incident will serve as another unfortunete accident that should have/could have been avoided. |
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I've had several accidents. Three while I was stationary and one where I didn't pay due care and ran up the rear of someone when I was attempting to change lanes. That was 15 years ago. I've learned a thing or two since then. There's a significant difference between doing a few over and what this clown has done. An accident is only a heartbeat away which is why I don't tempt fate and increase my risk by turning a public road into a dragstrip. I don't think I'm perfect but there's a huge chasm between my driving habits and this idiot that has endangered his family and has contributed to the likely death of his mate. |
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http://www.news.com.au/national/baby...-1226206978277
another article. this one mentions the word 'alleged' many times. everyone is very quick to judge when things go pearshaped and profess to never conducting themselves in a similar manner when behind the wheel, but the fact is, the only FACTS we have are those given us by the media. many of those 'facts' are prefaced by the word 'alleged'. not for a second am i condoning his actions. as mentioned, he deserves everything that comes his way, but there is a chance he wasn't 'drag racing' and there is a chance he didn't reach the 'alleged speed'. all the self righteous people who 'would never do 110 in a 70' or 'speed with passengers' etc etc need to realise things can go wrong very quickly and you don't have to be doing outrageous things to have it happen. |
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But there are a lot of witnesses, like his girlfriend, the construction workers, police forensic reports. Bail being denied is a big teller too, the judge must deem him a risk. Doubt he'd be able to post the bail anyway.
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Rob
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when i had my v8, i would have a neighbour wave his finger at me to slow down every time i went past, even though i would've been lucky to be nudging 40. if the cops asked them about me, i'm sure they would say i was speeding.
whilst witnesses think they are helping, their info isn't always accurate, esp when it comes to determining speed. people need to remember this when driving. if you ever get pulled over for a misdemeanor and a witness comes forward and offers their version of events, guaranteed it will be different to your story, and the cop will believe the witness first. people in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. what this guy did was stupid, irresponsible, etc etc but there are quite a few stones being hurled from people who are more than likely not innocent. |
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And anyone who goes racing on a public while a BABY is in the car deserves to have all the stones thrown. If people are that stupid in our society why the hell would anyone make excuses for them? Add up all the "bad" points... street racing... street racing through road works... having a baby in the back seat... Driving while suspended... causing and accident due to low IQ.... HE made that choice, no one forced him to do it, yet he decides to make that choice while a BABY is in the car.... Who speaks up for the baby? Its idiots like these two (one now deceased) who gives all the pollies out there and the do gooders enough ammunition to create more and more insanley idiotic laws.
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Sad very sad ...
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The speed really shouldn't be a major issue here: the thing is he drove beyond the means of himself and his car and could have killed many people. He could have done this all at 70.
Doing 110 in a 70 zone is not an instantaneous death sentence for someone. We do the nearly the same thing in slowing down from 110 to the 80 speedlimit when entering a town. For a few seconds, you are doing 100+ in a 80 zone. Idiots can't be policed unfortunately. Common sense only comes from experience.
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It is pretty sad really, to be racing with baby in the car. But how many of us have done the same thing? Not race, but when overtaking a road train for instance, personally I have often gotten to 150 when going past 2 trucks (on a long straight) with my kids in the car. Obviously I am only travelling at that speed for 30secs but it only takes one error in judgment. I am not condoning his actions, I hope he suffers, but I am pointing out that most of us at some point have sped with our kids in car.
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We all speed. Cops speed, ambulance drivers speed, lawyers speed, even the ever so respectable members of parliament that enact these laws speed.
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Just downright stupid
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Its not the speeding part people are whinging about.... and seemingly a lot of people are missing the point
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was he wrong to take the car out while having a curfew - yes, and probably a few here would not do it was he wrong to go through road works at high speed - yes, but many people have, especially as it was late at night was he wrong to clip his mate while driving on a road - yes, and unfortuantely while it seems a silly thing to do, it can happen easily enough was he wrong to be doing 110 in a 70 zone - yes, and many people here have either done it or lied about not doing it was he wrong to be doing that speed with a child in the car - no, you can do that speed on the freeway with a child in the car and it seems perfectly safe was he wrong to be aledgedly drag racing with a child in the car - yes, but what is the difference between drag racing with child in the car, or drag racing alone and passing a car with a child in that car (if you have read the news services, you will realise that alot of innocent parties in crashes do have children in the car) so, to anyone that misses my, prydey's, and probably serial fools, spudz and wulos's point we are not sticking up for him. we just think that you guys also have the potential to misjudge and clip the car next to you. to do 40 kph over the limit at some time. to put innocent lives in danger - whether they are in your own car or someone elses. if you believe it cannot and will not happen to you, you are part of the problem |
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if you have done those things and still think you are perfect, then you are part of the problem on the roads. of course, i realise that you have "only" had four accidents, but you only need one to do the damage. if you cannot see that, then why bother posting - you will never understand, so why prolong the argument it is weird - you have had 4 accidents and i have had none, and yet i am the one who is willing to learn from others misfortune and accept that i am not perfect |
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Let's tone it down thanks guys. It seems points have been made, all of which are valid but please accept you are unlikely to change the opinion of the other side.
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Sorry nope, never had an accident in my life (plenty of near misses and a minor bingle with a truck who failed to give way to me), never done any street racing, never lost my licence, never driven a car while disqaulified, never street raced with a baby in the back, or street raced through a road works area...... Yes I must be a hypocrit.... hell who cares really??? "Everyone" must of done it at some point in their life right? Because we are all the same? We all street race with a baby in the back at some point in our lives...
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I've had 1 at fault accident (which I learned from) and 3 while I was *stationary* at a set of lights. Last year I travelled 75,000kms, I've been driving for 24 years, I've had two under 15km speeding tickets (last one was 1992). I've never claimed to be perfect but in my opinion, the roads will be safer with this clown off them - surely, that point can't be up for debate too? |
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Also, if there were roadworks, wouldn't they be 40km/h zone, meaning these cars were doing 110 in a 40 zone? RIP to Mr Russell - appears he died in hospital.
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