falsely dobbed in to hoon hotline - Page 2

paule11 · 22-02-2009, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by v8capri8

i did a 100 odd metre skid up my street a couple of months back and put the car back in the shed, 2 hrs later the cops turned up as the old lady across the road complained (both elderly ladys next door to me didnt have a drama with it).
They didnt ask to see the car they just told me that a compliant had been made and that it was unacceptable to do that kind of thing (fair call). They told me that they didnt want to come and harress me and that they knew i didnt want them to either and than just said if it happens again that highway patrol would come round and take my car and my lisence. so there not all that bad i could have been in alot more trouble than the warning that they handed out
cheers

Maybe the old lady across the road had her windows open and doesnt appreciate having her house full of tyre smoke . Bestplace for burnouts is in industrial estates where no one is around at night

Poetic Justice · 22-02-2009, 01:19 PM

After having gone through similar my advice for him would to be to quickly have a chat with a solicitor to find out their opinion on the actual request to attend the station.

A year ago I had cops on the door step when I wasn't home looking for me. I spoke to them later on the phone and they said they wanted to question me about an incident in which I was reported for. Silly me went to the cop station and things turned pear shaped.

I was later informed by my solicitor that if I had have acted on the request to call a solicitor earlier (ie: before the actual attending of the station) he could have rung the police asked about the matter and informed them that it would be a waste of time for me to attend the station as I would have no comment to make.

In other words, you do not have to answer any of their questions - if they have enough evidence against you to justify a court appearance (and believe me, the Police superior wont allow a summons to be issued without worth while evidence, and if they have it, then he's stuffed).

Also, unless there are two express written statements made against the offender, the Police likely wont pursue the matter further than a warning.

This is all based on my own experiences, may or may not be the actual way things work but that's just my advice.

Cheers

**Full Noise** · 22-02-2009, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUD

After having gone through similar my advice for him would to be to quickly have a chat with a solicitor to find out their opinion on the actual request to attend the station......Edited to save space .......
Cheers

There’s no way that I’d voluntarily go to a police station with my vehicle to answer any questions regarding any “alleged” issues like this. Like many here have already pointed out, if they want you, they can damn well come and speak to you themselves. That’s their bloody job.

If they have credible evidence against you, they’ll show up.

TURBOTAXI · 22-02-2009, 01:41 PM

Back in 1994 I was in my 351XD in Tamworth and dropped the clutch to do a rather large burnout turning on to the road. Little did I know the guy watering his grass just 20 meters away was the Tamworth Highway patrol manager. He raced over in his shorts (no shirt) and told me to present at the local Police station at 8am the next morning. I showed up and got read the riot act but nothign came of it. I suspect if I had not shown up life may have become unpleasant.

**Full Noise** · 22-02-2009, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

Back in 1994 I was in my 351XD in Tamworth and dropped the clutch to do a rather large burnout turning on to the road. Little did I know the guy watering his grass just 20 meters away was the Tamworth Highway patrol manager. He raced over in his shorts (no shirt) and told me to present at the local Police station at 8am the next morning. I showed up and got read the riot act but nothign came of it. I suspect if I had not shown up life may have become unpleasant.

The difference there is that he caught you in the act. This issue could well be a baseless claim by nuisance neighbour who’s just discovered a way to make someone’s life difficult.

Stattic · 22-02-2009, 01:58 PM

a guy a couple of doors down from me drives a beaten up ba xr6 and every time he leaves the street he manages to drift around our particularly wide corner
one of the neighbours has reported him but all the cops did was go to the house and tell the guys parents control your son. they couldnt give two hoots and the cops told my neighbour there was absolutely nothing they could do unless there are complaints made by other neighbours also just in case the hoon allegations are false
i mean the guy has stockies as his back two wheels 100% of the time...

anyways the cops dont even listen to this neighbours anymore because he went dial-a-hoon mad and started reporting every person with a nice/loud car that drove past.

RG · 22-02-2009, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Stattic

a guy a couple of doors down from me drives a beaten up ba xr6 and every time he leaves the street he manages to drift around our particularly wide corner
one of the neighbours has reported him but all the cops did was go to the house and tell the guys parents control your son. they couldnt give two hoots and the cops told my neighbour there was absolutely nothing they could do unless there are complaints made by other neighbours also just in case the hoon allegations are false
i mean the guy has stockies as his back two wheels 100% of the time...

anyways the cops dont even listen to this neighbours anymore because he went dial-a-hoon mad and started reporting every person with a nice/loud car that drove past.

So the Police say that if other neighbours complain then they can do something, you don't do anything yet you still complain

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Stattic · 22-02-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Russell

So the Police say that if other neighbours complain then they can do something, you don't do anything yet you still complain

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to be honest i couldnt care less what he does, im just stating my experience with how the police handle such complaints

TURBOTAXI · 22-02-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Full Noise

The difference there is that he caught you in the act. This issue could well be a baseless claim by nuisance neighbour who’s just discovered a way to make someone’s life difficult.

Absolutely - different scenario. More commenting on police being more reasonable if you comply with directions.

v8capri8 · 22-02-2009, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

Absolutely - different scenario. More commenting on police being more reasonable if you comply with directions.

that was my point 2 i didnt back chat or lie to em i told em straight up and i got off on a warning even though ther were 2 dirty big marks up the street and rubber all over my back gurads (had they seen the car)

xw383 · 22-02-2009, 03:26 PM

When i got my new engine in and running, the builder came around for a spin. After he had left 15mins later the police arrived on my doorstep. Said have i been out in the car in the backyard today. Yes sir why? You have been reported for public nuisance. Oh really, well sir it is a new engine and i wasn't driving but ok what happens now. Their reply was " ah we will be watching you and behave". Ok officer no problems have a nice day.
They didn't even look at the car. Found out later the person who reported it was the father of a local officer.

LUXO_8 · 22-02-2009, 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Stattic

to be honest i couldnt care less what he does, im just stating my experience with how the police handle such complaints

the police are doing their job..... they gave a warning.....they cant do anything untill there are other complaints, otherwise its your neighbours word against the ba drivers word...

if there were other complaints, then they would be able to do something about it

dont you realise that?

Bent8 · 22-02-2009, 03:39 PM

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Originally Posted by TURBOTAXI

Back in 1994 I was in my 351XD in Tamworth and dropped the clutch to do a rather large burnout turning on to the road. Little did I know the guy watering his grass just 20 meters away was the Tamworth Highway patrol manager. He raced over in his shorts (no shirt) and told me to present at the local Police station at 8am the next morning. I showed up and got read the riot act but nothign came of it. I suspect if I had not shown up life may have become unpleasant.

What's the Riot Act got to do with chucking a burnout?

Marduk · 22-02-2009, 03:50 PM

Don't go down. If they want to talk have them talk to his solicitor. I certainly wouldn't go down unless they have more then bs heresay.

Hemicuda · 22-02-2009, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by paule11

Maybe the old lady across the road had her windows open and doesnt appreciate having her house full of tyre smoke . Bestplace for burnouts is in industrial estates where no one is around at night

+1 on that. I love a burnout as much as anyone else but there is a time and a place. People just need to be a bit more thoughtful. A little burnout or tyre screech is no big deal and people who feel the need to complain about it really need an interest in life. But full on line lockers in suburbia at 3am is totally inconsiderate and where hoon laws should be put into effect.

TURBOTAXI · 22-02-2009, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bent8

What's the Riot Act got to do with chucking a burnout?

In the army we called it a face ripping........

mongoloid · 22-02-2009, 05:06 PM

Dont do or change anything about the way you live. Last time i checked we lived in a democracy in which you were allowed to go about your business in a lawful manner without interferance. Also the onus of proof lies with the authorities not you, if they want to see your car they can come to you, and if its parked in a garage make the bastards get a warrent.

74_XB_Ute · 22-02-2009, 06:07 PM

I have just had a read through the Victorian police hoon laws. Dob in a Hoon is design to assist police is gathering information about specific areas to target when patrolling for hoons. There is nothing there that says you have to front up with your vehicle to the copshop. The intent of this action I would say is that it will make you cruise on down to the copshop where they know they can do jack all about the complaint but give you a warning anyway and go over your car (which they now know you drove to the copshop) and defect the hell out of it. My suggestion. If you know your car is defect worthy turn up at the copshop to get the earbashing but do it in mums car. Don't take yours. Tell them they are more than welcome to check out your car at home as they can't do jack all when it's on your property ie. can't issue defect notices. The only time the coppers can touch you is when they catch you according to the hoon laws.

Quote from the Vic police website:

"The Crime Stoppers Hoon Hotline is a valuable tool in enabling police to gather intelligence and target repeat hoon drivers. The hotline allows police to undertake better long-term planning to prevent hoon driving in particular areas."

These are my interpretations anyway.

BHDOGS · 22-02-2009, 06:42 PM

Yes i agree with everybody only "real hoons" who have done illegal things should report to the police station but anybody who is dobed in and has not done anything wrong should call lawyers batman superman and george bush rather then just getting of there lazy **** going to teh cop shop park your car around the corner and walk if ur driving a modified defect station and explain to the cops about ur neighbour and get it over with rather then having a cry.

Keepleft · 22-02-2009, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by iCat

Hi All

Colleague has been dobbed in to the Hoon Hotline by a vindictive neighbour. Allegedly spun the wheels and exceeded the speed limit in his street. He didn't.

Seek legal advice as to the potential of redress against the initial complainant. I would also be looking for a large, punitive damages payout.

Particularly btw, when or if action takes place as a result of internet based 'dob-in' type forum, which are not actioned by police in any case.

On the other hand;-

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Originally Posted by v8capri8

i did a 100 odd metre skid up my street a couple of months back and put the car back in the shed, 2 hrs later the cops turned up as the old lady across the road complained (both elderly ladys next door to me didnt have a drama with it).
They didnt ask to see the car they just told me that a compliant had been made and that it was unacceptable to do that kind of thing (fair call). They told me that they didnt want to come and harress me and that they knew i didnt want them to either and than just said if it happens again that highway patrol would come round and take my car and my lisence. so there not all that bad i could have been in alot more trouble than the warning that they handed out, cheers

Sorry, I'd have actioned same.

iCat · 22-02-2009, 08:15 PM

i am surprised, and pleased, to see that there wasn't a volley of responses from people who HAVE been dobbed in. nice to see

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thanks for all help - its been great.

hardaz · 22-02-2009, 08:21 PM

i had a notice from a neighbour stuck on my window saying i better be careful or she will call the police about me speeding down the street, funny thing is i was away for two weeks prior to the letter being put on my car. They just assumed it was me, because im the only one in the street with a loud car.

Stattic · 22-02-2009, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LUXO_8

the police are doing their job..... they gave a warning.....they cant do anything untill there are other complaints, otherwise its your neighbours word against the ba drivers word...

if there were other complaints, then they would be able to do something about it

dont you realise that?

there are more people living in the street than me, my neighbour and mr hoon.
if someone else doesnt like it, the onus is on them. why dont the other 30 houses he flies past dial a hoon? they dont care, they dont mind, they cant be bothered?
like i said i dont have a huge problem with him but if someone else does there is nothing stopping them from doing the same.

Stattic · 22-02-2009, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Hemicuda

+1 on that. I love a burnout as much as anyone else but there is a time and a place. People just need to be a bit more thoughtful. A little burnout or tyre screech is no big deal and people who feel the need to complain about it really need an interest in life. But full on line lockers in suburbia at 3am is totally inconsiderate and where hoon laws should be put into effect.

i couldnt agree more... on the same note im still too chicken to do anything silly because id really really like to hang on to my license lol
there are a couple of cars who do donuts on the road connecting to my street and they do it very very late, im telling you if i ever find out whos doing it i will 110% no doubt report it because that actually wakes me up at night and im assuming a lot of other neighbours too

and in case anyone decides to tell me that its probably that fella i wont report, i know for a fact that its not him because ive gone out and checked before and found his car out his front yard.
but come on, cant they just go to the industrial areas?? hell even the target carpark is all good with me (they probably have some form of surveillance tho, but hey its not me getting caught)

Qwik6 · 23-02-2009, 06:48 PM

One rule for hoons should be dont where you eat.
So then atleast the people that see you most won't dob you in.

motorcycles4eva · 23-02-2009, 07:00 PM

interesting thread..my mate has an xb falcon.. one of his loving neighbours dobbed him to the epa or something which he received a defect in the mail for noice pollution and had to take his car to the pits.. the car was defected and he ended up pulling it off the road.. it has been sitting now for a year..
if you have a dodgy neighbour then it sux how its their word against yours..and we usually pay for it too..

Stattic · 23-02-2009, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Trav 4.0

One rule for hoons should be dont where you eat.
So then atleast the people that see you most won't dob you in.

just like my dad always tells me, dont sh** in your own backyard
my crimes mostly extend to loud music which i (usually) turn down when i get to my street =P

pauljh74 · 23-02-2009, 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Stattic

just like my dad always tells me, dont sh** in your own backyard
my crimes mostly extend to loud music which i (usually) turn down when i get to my street =P

Another reason - if there are any dodgy people near where you live who hear your stereo that you may have spent some money on turned up loud - then they see where you live and then another time nick your stereo. You're advertising "I've got a decent stereo" which = $$$ to the crooks.

Stattic · 24-02-2009, 01:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pauljh74

Another reason - if there are any dodgy people near where you live who hear your stereo that you may have spent some money on turned up loud - then they see where you live and then another time nick your stereo. You're advertising "I've got a decent stereo" which = $$$ to the crooks.

i know, i know, once we were blasting our stereos out the front (only because we all got new gear and wanted to test it out, not to annoy people) and a carload of young islanders stopped out the front of our house and sat there listening and staring until they saw my mum come out looking at them and they drove away. were pretty sure they were relatives of one of the neighbours and it was months ago, nothings been touched since then

we often had people attack our cars, my mum had 2 of her tyres cut, i walked outside one morning and someone half my grill had been taken off (its not impossible to undo the bolts with the bonnet closed, just very very difficult), hell my car got keyed the night after i got it, in my own front yard

since then we have installed 4 security lights, put expensive alarms in all of our cars and rigged up buzzers to our sensor lights so when someone is on the property we are all very alert (were all night owls anyway, me and my parents are normally up till early hours of the morning). since our lights got put in we noticed the disturbances stop nearly completely. occasionally the wind sets off one of the cars warning sensors and every now and then a cat sets off the buzzers but id rather be woken up at 5am and have a crap sleep than wake up at 8:30am with a car broken into

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Spudz27 · 24-02-2009, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by pauljh74

Another reason - if there are any dodgy people near where you live who hear your stereo that you may have spent some money on turned up loud - then they see where you live and then another time nick your stereo. You're advertising "I've got a decent stereo" which = $$$ to the crooks.

I have $2000 worth of stereo in my falcon. No one knows because my daughter is always in the car so it never get's turned up lol.