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Old 25-05-2021, 03:17 PM   #31
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Call me fussy but I’d like a better paint gob for a mil+

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Agree, I'm struggling to see it being worth over 400k, but they were never finished off that great from new.. the cars came off the GMH line in pretty thin Acrylic with the front and rear spoilers fitted and painted at HDT in 2 pak, the guards were rolled to fit the wheels/tyres, roller covers were given a hammer from the inside to fit the roller rockers etc. they weren't museum pieces when new

As far as condition goes there's more than afew with less than 10,000kms on the clock, a fellow I know owned #355/502 which had 5,000odd kms as well as the late Trevor Young (biante) had one with 000,260kms on the clock

I'm still struggling to see how much extra money the 005 build number and Brock's ownership is worth to some people
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yep, for over $1M I would expect factory perfecto condition nothing less But obviously i haven't a lazy MIL to throw around like the intended bidders.
I say good luck to them for when you can spend that much you obviously would think they are already living the life/dream - well some yes some not I guess living on the edge.
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If I had a lazy mil to throw around on a car it'd be a phase 3, I wouldn't even car what colour, I'm not that fussy
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At 3 hours to go it hasn’t moved much.
Shirley if you had this much coin to splash about you’d have gone over the car in person wouldn’t you? Or is it just another cashed up investor hoping to make a dollar down the track
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Good on the buyer, a little piece of Australian history.
I guess there are a few Aussies with a bit extra to throw around.

The GTHO3 and 4 sold for high 6 figures and old chicken coupe sold for 300k and didn't run, rusted and requires just as much to restore it, but they were Ford's so they're worth it
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yep, for over $1M I would expect factory perfecto condition nothing less But obviously i haven't a lazy MIL to throw around like the intended bidders.
I say good luck to them for when you can spend that much you obviously would think they are already living the life/dream - well some yes some not I guess living on the edge.
Im guessing if you have a mil to drop on said car, whats a respray worth in big scheme of things.
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cock wombles that raffle cars off punching $bucks$ for this ??
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Some people can drop 20 million on a painting and it doesn't affect their lifestyle at all. So a loaded Brock/Holden fan, or investor, one million to them is nothing.

I was hoping that all these historic one of ones, low-mileage originals from Ford/Holden and Chrysler over the last 5 years were all being bought by the same dude and would unveil his collection someday, but that crazy art dealer ruined my dreams when she purchased that XY and displayed it surrounded by petrified dinosaur &^%^.
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$1,057,509 plus 7% buyers fee, $1,131,534.63.

Looks like its going to VIC
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https://www.news.com.au/technology/m...741b60b114476e

A V8 Holden once owned by Peter Brock has broken records to become the most valuable car built in Australia.

Bidding for the 1985 HDT VK Commodore passed the $1m mark before overtaking the $1,050,000 record of a rare HSV Maloo GTSR W1 on Monday.

It has already eclipsed the record $1.03 million paid for a classic Australian Ford formerly owned by Australian cricketer Jeff Thomson in 2018.

The auction for Brock’s road car closes at 9.30pm tonight.

The car is unlikely to beat the outright record price for an Australian car – $2.1 million for a Holden Commodore twice driven to Bathurst victories by Brock and co-driver Larry Perkins in 1982 and 1983.
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Old 25-05-2021, 11:00 PM   #41
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1985 HDT VK Group A build # 005 Peter Brock's Personal Car
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A V8 Holden once owned by Peter Brock has broken records to become the most valuable car built in Australia.

Bidding for the 1985 HDT VK Commodore passed the $1m mark before overtaking the $1,050,000 record of a rare HSV Maloo GTSR W1 on Monday.

It has already eclipsed the record $1.03 million paid for a classic Australian Ford formerly owned by Australian cricketer Jeff Thomson in 2018.

The auction for Brock’s road car closes at 9.30pm tonight.

The car is unlikely to beat the outright record price for an Australian car – $2.1 million for a Holden Commodore twice driven to Bathurst victories by Brock and co-driver Larry Perkins in 1982 and 1983.
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I wish they would stop running that incorrect claim about it being the most expensive australian car. There was a Phase 3 that sold for slightly more a couple of months ago
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A V8 Holden once owned by Peter Brock has broken records to become the most valuable car built in Australia.

Bidding for the 1985 HDT VK Commodore passed the $1m mark before overtaking the $1,050,000 record of a rare HSV Maloo GTSR W1 on Monday.

It has already eclipsed the record $1.03 million paid for a classic Australian Ford formerly owned by Australian cricketer Jeff Thomson in 2018.

The auction for Brock’s road car closes at 9.30pm tonight.

The car is unlikely to beat the outright record price for an Australian car – $2.1 million for a Holden Commodore twice driven to Bathurst victories by Brock and co-driver Larry Perkins in 1982 and 1983.
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That is a confusing article. This is what i gathered from it.

The blue VK sold for $1,057,509
HSV Maloo GTSR W1 for $1,050,000
GTHO 3 for $1.15 million
Race Commodore for $2.1 million

So this VK didn't set any records. Ok cool.
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That is a confusing article. This is what i gathered from it.

The blue VK sold for $1,057,509
HSV Maloo GTSR W1 for $1,050,000
GTHO 3 for $1.15 million
Race Commodore for $2.1 million

So this VK didn't set any records. Ok cool.
I believe the Jeff Thomson Ph3 sold for $1.03 million plus buyers fee ($1.15 mill).

I think what they are saying is that the VK has set a record for an Australian non-race car.

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I believe the Jeff Thomson Ph3 sold for $1.03 million plus buyers fee ($1.15 mill).

I think what they are saying is that the VK has set a record for an Australian non-race car.

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would that not be the ph4?
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I believe the Jeff Thomson Ph3 sold for $1.03 million plus buyers fee ($1.15 mill).

I think what they are saying is that the VK has set a record for an Australian non-race car.

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On the news tonight it said the Commodore set a record for a road going holden.
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cock wombles that raffle cars off punching $bucks$ for this ??


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On the news it said the new owner represented some group (think it was a car group or something, I missed that bit) and they are going to raffle it with tickets for $30.
No, just no.
Some bogan will win it and pull skids in the pub car park before getting it seized by Police, that's my fear.
I'll certainly buy some tickets (then if I win go pull some skids,hahaha).
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On the news it said the new owner represented some group (think it was a car group or something, I missed that bit) and they are going to raffle it with tickets for $30.
No, just no.
Some bogan will win it and pull skids in the pub car park before getting it seized by Police, that's my fear.
I'll certainly buy some tickets (then if I win go pull some skids,hahaha).
Yep, is all over FacePlant apparently.
Sounds dodgy...
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Yep, is all over FacePlant apparently.
Sounds dodgy...
Not dodgy at all.
LMCT bought it.
They buy and raffle cars and support Make a Wish Foundation etc.
Decent people making a difference
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It’s culturally inappropriate, reducing this piece to a low-dollar token in a game of chance. There would be an outcry if (say) a work by Albert Namatjira was vended thus.

I’m no particular fan of Peter Brock but recognise he was a lifelong toiler; his ambition was not to earn a right to idleness but to give, to perform, to exceed. If it proceeds to a raffle, this is scarcely better than nineteenth century voyeurism into savages, foreign lands and strange rituals.
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To follow on from cb's post above, I fear for this car if it is raffled.

Having owned a similar HDT some years ago, I know these cars cannot be just driven and serviced at certain intervals. They need constant attention to ensure everything is operating as they should. And items attended to when the need arises. It needs an enthusiast who knows how to care for it, to own it to ensure it is kept and maintained as it should.

Otherwise it will be a wreck in no time, tossed into the back yard to languish and rot to nothing.
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Couple of high and mighty posts above here............
So it's perfectly fine to assume that because someone might win it with a $30 raffle ticket that it's going to be destroyed , but if someone paid $1M for it out of their own pocket it's going to be cared for correctly?
What a pathetic , elitist attitude..............
In my line of work I deal with all ends of the socio economic scale.
I have seen VN commodores in garages that look like brand new cars and I have seen 2 month old BMW M5s in garages with more gutter rash on the rims then an off road racer and the kids snacks from 2 months ago smeared across the back seat.
There is just as much chance as someone who wins it in a raffle looking after it like their first born as there is for someone to pay a million dollars for it and leave it rotting in the back corner of a garage because they have bought it just so they have it........................
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There's some strange presumptions being made if it is won by a bogan for a $30 ticket and who then won't look after it.

This mob paid over $1m for it so there were obviously others who bid around the $1m amount for it to eventually be won for just over etc.

So WHY would anyone including a bogan want to hang onto a car that they won for $30 when they can re auction it and possibly get close to $1M. Other than a genuine HSV enthusiast you would have to be a total muppet to want to keep it.
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While it's wrong to assume a bogan will win it & destroy it, precedents have already been set.

This has all happened before with the M/Benz AMG being destroyed doing burnouts in SW Sydney, not too long ago. This car was won in through the same auction/charity company. Admittedly the M/Benz didn't have as much intrinsic value as a VK SS Group A though.

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Couple of high and mighty posts above here............
So it's perfectly fine to assume that because someone might win it with a $30 raffle ticket that it's going to be destroyed , but if someone paid $1M for it out of their own pocket it's going to be cared for correctly?
What a pathetic , elitist attitude..............
In my line of work I deal with all ends of the socio economic scale.
I have seen VN commodores in garages that look like brand new cars and I have seen 2 month old BMW M5s in garages with more gutter rash on the rims then an off road racer and the kids snacks from 2 months ago smeared across the back seat.
There is just as much chance as someone who wins it in a raffle looking after it like their first born as there is for someone to pay a million dollars for it and leave it rotting in the back corner of a garage because they have bought it just so they have it........................
Its nothing to do with how rich the new owner has or where they sit on the 'socio-economic scale'. That is most irrelevant and shows a lack of understanding of what I was trying to get at. And I don't agree at all either on how this car was prepared for sale, then sold to the highest bidder.

Whether the new owner is rich or not so rich, knowledge in knowing how to keep such a car and the required capabilities to maintain and repair as required, is what is important. The ability in dealing with the various issues unique and common to original unrestored VK's. Not necessarily doing it all themselves, but knowing to engage the right people when necessary.

And nothing to do with bogans either. Lets hope the car ends up in the right hands, better sooner than later.
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I kinda figured someone spending other peoples money would get their hands on it

Anyone know any details for the raffle yet?.. asking for a mate
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Its nothing to do with how rich the new owner has or where they sit on the 'socio-economic scale'. That is most irrelevant and shows a lack of understanding of what I was trying to get at. And I don't agree at all either on how this car was prepared for sale, then sold to the highest bidder.

Whether the new owner is rich or not so rich, knowledge in knowing how to keep such a car and the required capabilities to maintain and repair as required, is what is important. The ability in dealing with the various issues unique and common to original unrestored VK's. Not necessarily doing it all themselves, but knowing to engage the right people when necessary.

And nothing to do with bogans either. Lets hope the car ends up in the right hands, better sooner than later.
The right hands, Who determines that? You? A committee? the government?

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Otherwise it will be a wreck in no time, tossed into the back yard to languish and rot to nothing.
Then in another 5-10 years time thy’ll crane lift it out of someone’s backyard with a frenzy of media cameras and auction it off again for $10mill.
The public has an appetite it seems for old maggotty cars full of rust with dubious alcohol fuelled pub stories as historical evidence of value !
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Then in another 5-10 years time thy’ll crane lift it out of someone’s backyard with a frenzy of media cameras and auction it off again for $10mill.
The public has an appetite it seems for old maggotty cars full of rust with dubious alcohol fuelled pub stories as historical evidence of value !
Or an appreciation for classic Australian built cars...
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