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Old 25-05-2013, 10:37 PM   #31
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Great comment, I've always considered it the Aussie version of the Jag XK motor, or some of the fine BMW inline 6's. Can you imagine the Turbo 6 in a roadster?
Mate, I reckon the BMW engineers were probably spot on.
Not a roadster, and not imagination, but my reality is this is a stonking engine in my XR6 turbo.

To add to the equation, the standard XR6's 245 tyres don't allow the engine to reach anywhere near its full potential.
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Old 25-05-2013, 10:40 PM   #32
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Its just too bad they will never get to use the direct injection versions PD cobbled together.
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Old 25-05-2013, 10:57 PM   #33
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Story goes they built a batch of DI and non DI I6's a year or 2 ago to test them for future Euro 5 compliance, and they all passed quite easily. Thats about all I know. I'd assume they would have had to choose between them which ones they wanted to develop further, but based on cost you'd have to assume it would have been the non DI versions, which may or may not be fitted in 2014, but probably not certified and tested for Euro 5, might just be cheaper to keep them Euro 4 as there is no need for Euro 5 compliance now.

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Old 25-05-2013, 11:03 PM   #34
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Look at it glow!

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Story goes they built a batch of DI and non DI I6's a year or 2 ago to test them for future Euro 5 compliance, and they all passed quite easily. Thats about all I know. I'd assume they would have had to choose between them which ones they wanted to develop further, but based on cost you'd have to assume it would have been the non DI versions, which may or may not be fitted in 2014, but probably not certified and tested for Euro 5, might just be cheaper to keep them Euro 4 as there is no need for Euro 5 compliance now.

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Thanks. I wonder how the DI version performed.
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Old 26-05-2013, 01:28 AM   #36
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Its just too bad they will never get to use the direct injection versions PD cobbled together. An Ecoboost version of that would have been off the hook.

I heard they also had an EcoLPi version of the turbo 6 running around in an XR6 Turbo ute recently.
So the i6 can pass Euro 5!! The news reports of it not achieving this were all BS?
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That sucks, I would have loved a direct injected turbo six with a ZF 8 speed. Oh well it's pretty good as is I guess..
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So the i6 can pass Euro 5!! The news reports of it not achieving this were all BS?
It always could, it was just a case of spending the money to get it there. Something Ford wasn't prepared to do apparently.
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Old 26-05-2013, 12:16 PM   #39
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It always could, it was just a case of spending the money to get it there. Something Ford wasn't prepared to do apparently.
What a shame hey. But with falling sales what are you going to do.

They should have brought back a smaller Falcon a few years back and called it the Cortina. Imagine that, a direct injected Turbo I6 Cortina.

Back to reality........ :(
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Old 26-05-2013, 12:49 PM   #40
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what happened to the clevo and holden 6/8??
308 was sold you can get cast iorn and alloy ones if you want.
Clevo and holden 6 just scraped.
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I would think the business decision would be to complete any legal obligations to spare parts stock and then to the scrappies. A sad end to a stand out wholly Australian engine.
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Old 26-05-2013, 01:30 PM   #42
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What a shame hey. But with falling sales what are you going to do.

They should have brought back a smaller Falcon a few years back and called it the Cortina. Imagine that, a direct injected Turbo I6 Cortina.

Back to reality........ :(
What they should have done is spawned another vehicle from the Territory platform.
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Old 26-05-2013, 02:23 PM   #43
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I doubt, but hope, that since ford know of their demise, they will just go all out with the i6 and retire it with a bang. Would be nice to see factory 210-220kw NA 6s, 300kw XR6ts and 370kw f6's.
A 400kw GT-P would be really nice too
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My Idea sell the I6 line to Tata to put into their latest F type
E type reborn
problem solved
Geelong city council buy the plant and keep making the I6 (and other bits)
I6 turbo as eco lpi; the new world plant engine; tune to run on methane/natural gas
you could run it off any intensive animal farm to power generators etc electricity to local communities in places where power is hard to get
research other fuels that the engine could run on
Vic govt reclaim Geelong plant as a part of the TAFE system to keep the skills up ( as repayment of investment made to ford by the state) and do all of the above
as long as you could cover costs of education any profit from sales could go back into the TAFE system
Vic Govt reclaim broadmeddows as well and go into making "yellow Cabs" for the world
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Also, the I6 cylinder heads are cast in Mexico so the moulds are not physically in Ford's hands to sell/give them away, even if they wanted to.
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Old 26-05-2013, 04:04 PM   #46
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Also, the I6 cylinder heads are cast in Mexico so the moulds are not physically in Ford's hands to sell/give them away, even if they wanted to.
That is interesting.
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Old 26-05-2013, 07:11 PM   #47
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I6T on factory LPG... Only in Aus!!! Would be great!
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Old 26-05-2013, 08:35 PM   #48
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I suppose the deal selling any tooling back to X series days to Rare Spares a few months back starts to make sense.
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There was a diesel I6 built a few years back as well from what I heard its was supposed to goes in the Territory.
Went hard too, but again was canned by Ford US
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