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Old 13-04-2013, 05:38 PM   #31
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Default Re: Territory, Ranger crossover Frankenstein!

Actually, Just looking at the photo of the Territory going around the roundabout, It looks like there was another one which is up the road a little!

I didn't see that one!!
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Maybe there will be an IRS derivative? I wouldn't imagine it would take Tezza's IRS to do so though.
But even if there was an IRS version, why use the Tezza back end? Notice also that it uses a Ranger stud pattern and wheels, which rules out the use of the Territory IRS, in this car anyway
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I wonder...

Like...why so much territory parts...

Could it be a life line...
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But even if there was an IRS version, why use the Tezza back end? Notice also that it uses a Ranger stud pattern and wheels, which rules out the use of the Territory IRS, in this car anyway
Maybe just something funky with the T6 wagon rear bodywork?

Unless they haven't signed off on the rear styling and are pushing forward with development k's.
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Unless they haven't signed off on the rear styling and are pushing forward with development k's.
That's what I'm thinking it is - there is some issue or something holding them up with the back half of the T6 bodywork or design, they can't afford to wait any longer and need to get the attribute prototypes done and validated by a certain time. Not surprising seeing as the back half of the SUV will have unique panels to the ute.
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In what way? Of the hundreds of countries this will be sold in, not much more than a dozen or so will be RHD.

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It would be a chassis engineering vehicle. The body work on it would irrelevent, as they are just testing the suspension, braking, handling etc on real roads.
The full bodywork ones would only be floating around the Ford proving ground for the time being, away from prying eyes.
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Old 13-04-2013, 07:11 PM   #38
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Certainly a cut n' shut job, very interesting!
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Old 13-04-2013, 08:28 PM   #39
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The similarities of the door shapes is interesting, maybe going forward they would want to have a common casting for both ( assuming they want to modular like VW). Since the Thai plant is flat out meeting demand for Ranger, what a coup it would be to have T6 SUV built here!!!
Then maybe a soft-roader Territory derivative too, assuming Falcy disappears :(
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Old 13-04-2013, 08:38 PM   #40
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Man..I want one..even with the mismatching doors!
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Man..I want one..even with the mismatching doors!
Yes I tend to agree to a certain extent. It did look quite good and if they matched the panels in properly it might even have it over the current Territory for front end looks.

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Old 13-04-2013, 09:34 PM   #42
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Interesting to see that the Territory is noticeably wider than the Ranger.
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Old 13-04-2013, 09:53 PM   #43
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The rims are 6 bolt. That means it's a Ranger drivetrain front to back doesn't it?????? Back seats are missing too.

Is the Ranger going to replace the Territory???? A Ranger based SUV????
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Old 13-04-2013, 10:58 PM   #44
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I wonder if one could do a rego check on that plate and see what the vehicles details would be...
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Because it's OUR development team which is working on it. They gain so much valuable experience, they otherwise would not have, when they work on programs like this.... which means it can lead to further, similar type development on future models. If one of those future models is something Ford Aus can build for us (if not also for others) here... then it would mean a great deal to our motor industy ! (even if the LHD versions were built elsewhere, for other markets)
Newsflash - Ford Australia are one of only three global vehicle development hubs within Ford. They've got over 1000 engineers on the payroll, have virtual design AND build facilities, and the T6 platform has its principal development centre at Ford Australia. But the Ranger SUV isnt the only thing they're cooking at the moment...
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That should have been the replacement for the Explorer. 3.5L V6 EcoBoost in that thing would be awesome. 270 kw/570 Nm. Up it to 300/650 just for fun.
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I wonder if one could do a rego check on that plate and see what the vehicles details would be...
No records of said vehicle according to Vicroads.
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Old 14-04-2013, 06:38 AM   #48
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What are those brush things hanging from the bottom called and where do I get some for the wagon!?
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What are those brush things hanging from the bottom called and where do I get some for the wagon!?
They're the Franken brushes and they are a $972 option from Ford

I think they're just there to hide something.
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They're the Franken brushes and they are a $972 option from Ford

I think they're just there to hide something.
$972 for franken brush street sweeper option aint bad at all!
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I reckon it will be a Ranger/ Territory SUV for the Thai/SE Asia market.
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I've seen a pic of a red one as well (with a white rear bumper). Very similar bodywork, had the brushes too, so I'm guessing there are several of these developmental mules getting around at the moment.
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Great catch. As Brazen pointed out, it seems that Ranger "wagon" is slightly narrower then a Territory based on how a fairly complete rear end of a Terry has been grafted on and no cutting down the middle axis was made to shrink the Terry rear onto the Ranger front half. The C-pillar of the Terry looks to be double the normal size here with an insertion of some panels to create the extra length. So the Ranger wagon looks to be a fair bit longer then a Territory.

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Interesting!!


I think they have just put the Territory rear on it, so they can test it & not give away what it actually looks like.
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It would be a chassis engineering vehicle. The body work on it would irrelevent, as they are just testing the suspension, braking, handling etc on real roads.
The full bodywork ones would only be floating around the Ford proving ground for the time being, away from prying eyes.
^^^This is probably closer to the truth than any of the other theories been tossed around.....
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I think they have just put the Territory rear on it, so they can test it & not give away what it actually looks like.
Yes sounds like a completley plausible reason. Hence the underbody brushes seem to be there also to hide the underbody components (Running gear etc) which has been mentioned.
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what gets me is the fact the ranger is available in right hand drive so why the need for it ( the test mule ) to be in left hand drive

I saw these cars driving around geelong about a week ago there were 4 of them though 2 white and 1 red and a blue one
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this i follow with great interest....... cross between ranger and territory would be perfect to replace the pajero in 2 years! i know its a long way off but i think that would be awesome!
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Panel gaps look better than your typical Ford Australia cars...

Should see a ressurgance in SUV sales as the Ranger is top notch.
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Has there been any talk of a release date or when they atleast plan to have these T6's on the road, '14 / '15 ?.
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