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I think all 3 look good But powershift drama s in prev models prob damaged focus And Puma and Escape don’t think Ford Ute Aus could get any stock from Ford Eur so they didn’t bother marketing or advertising … good cars gone bye bye |
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The real test will be the new Prado. The less conservative styling might do well in that segment. Will be interesting to see Everest numbers against that.
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Prado has never been a looker so it won’t matter, it’s their distribution and return business and fleet.
Ford hardly over turns them but for Ranger getting ahead of them in advancements originally. There has hardly been a Toy flop of the popular volume models even with recalls dpf dogs they keep re climbing the step ladder. Always a challenge but they recover ground lost or near enough. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
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more Focus buyers to a more profitable vehicle. It matters little as Ford Europe has cut a lot of the Euro 5 versions and Australia can’t import Euro 6 compliant vehicles until the fuel available here in about 18 months. Don’t get me wrong, I’m in the camp that would love to see more compact fords here, America/Mexico exports to us would be helpful if the vehicles were designed in RHD… What a cluster, a RHD Maverick and Bronco Sport would be interesting models to sell here but absolutely not on the radar unless big changes happen. It’s clear that Ford has a set its plan on highly profitable Ranger /Everest sales, that success at least gives Ford a chance to at least look at a business plan for more vehicles but then, governments pushing like crazy with electrification sure doesn’t help. |
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RAV4 wait times have been crazy long so I would say that this is a big delivery. It will be interesting to see the figures next month.
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waiting a long time for these..must be a joy to finally get what you really want, can’t deny the conviction of those buyers. I guess the same could be said of Ranger/Everest buyers and of course Hilux/Prado buyer too… I wonder if ramp up on boat deliveries is starting to shorten buyer wait times for vehicles. I know wait times for certain Rangers was over 12 months before the new carrier started so hoping it gets down to like two or three months (maybe wishful thinking) Last edited by jpd80; 10-08-2024 at 06:00 PM. |
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They tend to be outdoorsy types who you could market a 'lifestyle ute', something thats not a ladder frame clattery diesel piece of shit that you get diesel on your hands every time you fill it up and that steers like the Costa Concordia. It wouldn't canibalise Ranger sales as they're different customers, it'll steal some off Subaru and some other SUV sellers. https://www.ford.com/trucks/maverick/ Its a huge oversight keeping that to US-only, would do well in Australia. Its based off Focus/C2 platform so it should steer and drive wicked, more car like anyway. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 10-08-2024 at 08:39 PM. |
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I don't do running. Too old for that. I'll stick to walking and cycling.
Mind you, I reckon the smaller ford macho style SUVs would more suit the young mums in leggings with the jogging prams...
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Bronco Sport would fill that role superbly. But no, it would cost them too much money to make some money.
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It’s disappointing that Ford Australia can’t access either Maverick or Bronco Sport in RHD, I know there's been a big issue with even supplying the USA with decent numbers but now supply restrictions are lifting and inventory growing, there’s a slight chance to revisit the request. In any regard, disappointment in not having access to those vehicles should not give way to spiteful invective regarding the success of Ranger and Everest and the “Ranger Motor Company” Would that they could Ford Australia working its backside off to get more product but friggin hard. In my mind, Toyota and Mazda are getting too many easy sales from Ford people who want vehicles that Ford doesn’t supply, I hope there’s a way of showing head office what could be Last edited by jpd80; 11-08-2024 at 10:32 AM. |
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Ford, time and again, have had good products in those segments and they just don't sell. Even on this forum, if someone asks for recommendations on a car to buy, Ford are rarely mentioned. Then when Ford decide to pull the product, the knives come out. Personally I think Ford have shown their ability to adapt to the market here and even once local manufacturing closed they have found a way to stay in the top 5 brands here, despite the predictions of doom on this forum.
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Surveyed several Mazda dealers here in Brisbane when looking for a vehicles, surprised by how many people who owned Fords also buy new Mazdas… I know that anecdotal from several dealerships in my area but it sure beats that whiney people don’t wants Fords when they’re offered…..can you blame them when the prices are up there or they come with a pre fkd dry clutch DSG that Ford won’t honour warrant on… I could go on but the point is by the time Forrd tried to save its name, the damage was done. I think it’s time to hit the reset button and try again but understand if Ford disagrees. |
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I am also in the crowd of buying a Mazda when wanting a Ford.
When the wife's car was due for an upgrade we waited for the updated Escape to come but it never eventuated so hello CX5 Turbo. Also I like the new Maverick Tremor edition, it would suit me better for what I am doing than my current Thai Special, and would be cheaper to buy and run i would imagine. Also I am guessing we can see what direction the front styling cues of an updated Ranger will look like when ever that happens in the future. ![]()
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My wife and I are also in that segment where we bought a Mazda CX-5 Turbo over the Ford equivalent, personally we believe the Mazda was and is, hands down the better vehicle.
We had previously looked over the Ford range but the Mazda was just so much better in all aspects, and having the Mazda for 3 years now we are extremely happy with it. So much so that I regret in some way of purchasing the Territory over the CX-9 at the time. Not to mention the after sales, where I have had the Territory (which we bought brand new) serviced through Ford dealerships and the Mazda (also brand new) serviced through Mazda dealerships, well the Mazda experience has been ever so pleasing to the point where at one stage we had a few issues with the actual service but they recognised their mistake and couldn't do enough to rectify the problem and actually went way out of their way to turn the experience completely around. Where as for the Ford dealership and service of the Territory, well I've been through two different dealerships now just to find one that treats you with respect and every time I had the car there it became a nightmare, so much that I dreaded the time when it was time to service the car. We are still in a major dispute with the last service (dealership) that is going through VCAT at the moment. Last edited by galaxy xr8; 13-08-2024 at 11:31 AM. |
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No regrets with the Escape. Dealer looks after us very well also and has done for years prior to buying a new car from them.
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Which is why China dominates business globally, complete opposite. I suspect Ford won't exist in passenger vehicle space by 2030, and will primarily be focused on light commercial vehicles with a primary focus on North American market, and maybe some offerings to markets like Thailand/Australia/NZ where we're primarily these segments. They're on a similar trajectory to GM, focusing everything on North America. Its no loss really because as the big American companies turn around and say no, China says yes and is introducing new vehicles and brands to our markets constantly. Your next new vehicle purchase will be Chinese I suspect. Watch what Ford and GM will do to protect the North American market, they'll pull a Harley Davidson and go crying to the US federal government to implement tarrifs so they don't have to compete in their own market. |
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Ford oz is just following in the footsteps of Henry ford…
You can have any ranger you want…. As long as it’s black
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I can save Ford Europe
Take 1 Thai Factory Make a Ranger Delete the chassis (save $$$ on steel) - now a monocoque Put little wheels on it Take an Angle Grinder Cut off 50cm from the tub "2026 Focus" Raise 2cm "2026 Edge" Take same Angle Grinder Cut off 70cm from the tub "2026 Fiesta" Raise 2cm "2026 Puma" Can also export these to Oz in volume in boats from Thailand You're welcome.
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To me, it looks like the chiefs are mighty displeased at how the place has been mismanaged into the ground as well as the flow on to ROW markets. A sick Ford Europe means a sick ROW. I feel for them because they did everything Bill Ford wanted with transitioning away from diesels, cars and even ICEs but that has seen a devastating consequence on sales in Europe and supply to ROW markets like ours…Europe is selfish to deal with and looks after home market first and what’s left over production is given to internal export customers like Australia and when it pulls the rug on Euro 5 builds, then there goes our sales. Thinking there’s justification for a C2 production line in Thailand that could build multiple vehicles for our region in both left and right hand drive. Sourcing vehicles from the other side of the world doesn’t seem to be working. Last edited by jpd80; 14-08-2024 at 09:28 AM. |
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