Who studies martial arts? - Page 2

loxxr6 · 07-10-2006, 03:52 PM

I started kyokushin a while back but never stuck with it. I'm pretty interested in it all and have a couple of how to dvd's at home (Krav Maga etc).

I'd love to be able to get in Brazillian Jiu Jitsu or Muay Thai. These seem pretty practical.

Bucknaked · 07-10-2006, 07:54 PM

I did Taekwondo years ago. It was a lot of fun. My dad was in the Raaf and he was stationed in Malaysia so i studied there. Great experience learning from these guys. Ours was run for Raaf kids, had 2 instructors. One was an Airforce Officer who was a Black Belt and our master was a Malaysian Instructor who was a 5th dan. For our gradings we used to fight in local tournaments and these were usually held at local temples. Loved it. It's different.

I never continued when we returned back home. Attended some classes. In asia, I found it was all about the Martial Arts. More spiritual. In Australia, it's more business and all about the $$$. The level of instructors i always found to be poor.

One Drone · 07-10-2006, 08:45 PM

I agree with you Bucknaked. I've always loved martial arts and I still do. Went to Shaolin Temple recently and that is amazing to watch. Done Tae Kwon Do, Jeet Kun Do and tried Wing Chun but it's hard (in Australia) to find a good instructor who will train you without thinking too much about how much $ he is getting from you.

DOC · 07-10-2006, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by One Drone

to find a good instructor who will train you without thinking too much about how much $ he is getting from you.

After learning the correct technique it's really how much you are prepared to put into mastering it , like anything.

For me years in tae kwon do, boxing, judo and zen do ki.

I was at instructor level for zen do ki ( based on a tough street fight style for me ) for many years, but these days oragami ( paper folding ) is a struggle,good fun at the time and enjoyed it.

Best lesson from it all, It takes a tougher person to walk away and avoid a fight than some one ready to punch it up over trivial matters.

always walk away and only ever throw a punch in self defence or in protecting your family / loved ones or those unable to defend themselves.

J.C. · 07-10-2006, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DOC

After learning the correct technique it's really how much you are prepared to put into mastering it , like anything.

For me years in tae kwon do, boxing, judo and zen do ki.

I was at instructor level for zen do ki ( based on a tough street fight style for me ) for many years, but these days oragami ( paper folding ) is a struggle,good fun at the time and enjoyed it.

Best lesson from it all, It takes a tougher person to walk away and avoid a fight than some one ready to punch it up over trivial matters.

always walk away and only ever throw a punch in self defence or in protecting your family / loved ones or those unable to defend themselves.

I too did Zen Do Ki for a number a years, training 2-3 hrs per night. On top of the phyical aspect of training of an evening came the daily manual labour of my job. I was heading to training and was shaking because I was that phyically drained from the days activates. I learnt to put mind over matter. It was great to see how far you could push yourself. In the end it all became to much with my joints (hips,knees,elbows,shoulders,etc) all paying a price. I cannot move like I used too. I have learnt of this first hand as I now assist in training the local junior boxing. Can see them coming and the mind says "move you fool" but the body says "forget it buddy, it ain't gunna happen.... so brace yourself cause this may hurt".

I enjoyed doing it. Wish I could still. But the advice given by DOC is the best lesson that can be learnt or taught by any teacher of the art.

Failing that, I have learnt that a swift kick just behind the saddle bags can bring down the biggest of men. Actually they go up about a foot or two first, then hit the ground. Had this happen to me at training once. Couldn't see for the tears (wasn't crying, they just seem to start flowing). It was like p-----g on an electric fence in the dark. OUCH!

Trainer thought it was a great lesson. Man who cannot see or stand cannot fight. Couldn't argue with that!

RegSpec · 07-10-2006, 10:59 PM

Ive watched all the Bruce Lee,Chuck Norris and Steven Seagal movies and did martial arts for a while till I wiped my knee out.
Have since found that a piece of 4x2 timber about a meter and a half long is just as effective :evil3:

Bill M · 08-10-2006, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I did Taekwondo years ago. It was a lot of fun. My dad was in the Raaf and he was stationed in Malaysia so i studied there. Great experience learning from these guys. Ours was run for Raaf kids, had 2 instructors. One was an Airforce Officer who was a Black Belt and our master was a Malaysian Instructor who was a 5th dan. For our gradings we used to fight in local tournaments and these were usually held at local temples. Loved it. It's different.

I never continued when we returned back home. Attended some classes. In asia, I found it was all about the Martial Arts. More spiritual. In Australia, it's more business and all about the $$$. The level of instructors i always found to be poor.

A great opportunity you had in Malaysia Bucknaked, your sentiments about the training standards here have some foundation.
I also trained in Tae Kwon Do ITF style reaching 1st degree Black belt. Finding an instructor is easy but finding a good instructor is hard. There is an ITF TKD instructor here in Melbourne at RMIT Master Robert Lai who I think is from Malaysia who is first class but he is an exception as he is not $$$ driven like a great many whose credentials need careful scrutiny.
To anyone who is entertaining a Martial Art do your homework on the discipline you are interested in, a good instructor will not mind you watching a training session before you fork out $$$.
Cheers
Bill.

**Stav** · 08-10-2006, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I did Taekwondo years ago. It was a lot of fun. My dad was in the Raaf and he was stationed in Malaysia so i studied there. Great experience learning from these guys. Ours was run for Raaf kids, had 2 instructors. One was an Airforce Officer who was a Black Belt and our master was a Malaysian Instructor who was a 5th dan. For our gradings we used to fight in local tournaments and these were usually held at local temples. Loved it. It's different.

I never continued when we returned back home. Attended some classes. In asia, I found it was all about the Martial Arts. More spiritual. In Australia, it's more business and all about the $$$. The level of instructors i always found to be poor.

I think this is very true for far too many times. The big dollars asked for usually seems to dictate the schools.The other problem is that they cannot teach you to a level which they cannot.The technical ability seems to be limited to visual effects and a few tricks.

**Stav** · 08-10-2006, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucknaked

I did Taekwondo years ago. It was a lot of fun. My dad was in the Raaf and he was stationed in Malaysia so i studied there. Great experience learning from these guys. Ours was run for Raaf kids, had 2 instructors. One was an Airforce Officer who was a Black Belt and our master was a Malaysian Instructor who was a 5th dan. For our gradings we used to fight in local tournaments and these were usually held at local temples. Loved it. It's different.

I never continued when we returned back home. Attended some classes. In asia, I found it was all about the Martial Arts. More spiritual. In Australia, it's more business and all about the $$$. The level of instructors i always found to be poor.

I think this is very true for far too many times. The big dollars asked for usually seems to dictate the schools.The other problem is that they cannot teach you to a level which they cannot.The technical ability seems to be limited to visual effects and a few tricks. To be effective in combat is to create maximum damage in minimal time to control the situation.

mosman69 · 08-10-2006, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Bill M

There is an ITF TKD instructor here in Melbourne at RMIT Master Robert Lai who I think is from Malaysia who is first class but he is an exception as he is not $$$ driven like a great many whose credentials need careful scrutiny.

WOW its such a small world, i have doen taekwon do since i was 6 and have been to two junior world championships and pulled out of the most recent senior one due to politics not being to my liking, but i trained for a while under Master Lai, he is indeed from malaysia and he is the most unselfish instructor in the friggin world, he does it for the love not for the money, unlike most instructors (no disrespect this is not a generalisation) he has another full time job so martial arts is not his income so he is always looking after his students best interests on and off the mat. TOP bloke two thumbs up for him.
Bill how do you know him?

Bill M · 08-10-2006, 11:39 PM

G'day Mosman69, I have been out of Tae Kwondo for quite a few years now and trained briefly at Master Lai's school at RMIT but couldn't keep doing the traveling due to new daughter, work etc. Yes Master Robert Lai is a standout instructor who is widely respected, alas I did not get to know him personally,
cheers
Bill.

mosman69 · 08-10-2006, 11:52 PM

righto nice to bump into someone like this, totally unexpected. I was with him for two years while i was studying at monash in melbourne, heard he was the best, tried it out and couldnt fault him so i stayed till i left melbourne (temporarily this year) don't know if ill b getting back into it tho. anyways sorry to knick the post guys

red_hotxr6 · 09-10-2006, 08:27 AM

Did any one get to see the martial arts documentary last night on foxtel, with the bo,nunchucks and the katana featuring.

ThoR_ · 10-10-2006, 07:32 AM

I dont do it but i was taught Akido by my dad and boxing. He was an Akido instructor and a good boxer was also a cop so he got to test it alot back in the day lol. But yeh akido and boxing are good.

I think on the street boxing is best.

All though i do hate fighting but if someone is attacking me or hits me it`s on!

The Monty · 11-10-2006, 06:54 AM

Went to my first JuJitsu class last night. Was very good, a lot of good things learnt.

**Stav** · 11-10-2006, 08:27 PM

Today I turned on the tele and they had guiness book of world records.
A karate guy was there and a guy from my wing chun club with a senior instructor.They both went for the most punches in a minute. The karate guy threw 380 and the wing chun threw 420...a new world record.Just loked a bit sureal to see people I knew on tv breaking records.

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