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BENT_8 · 24-03-2020, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Driving to work was unbelievable this morning, I work about 3KM from the CBD and all the freeways were bare - it was like driving through Adelaide

You should see Adelaide..

Franco Cozzo · 24-03-2020, 02:05 PM

Even if the kids have to resit the year over again is it that much of a big deal from an education perspective? They'll be 19 coming out of Year 12.

They've got circa 45 years at work ahead of them, the year isn't going to make a huge difference, if they go to uni heaps do a 'gap year'/travel anyway.

BENT_8 · 24-03-2020, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even if the kids have to resit the year over again is it that much of a big deal from an education perspective? They'll be 19 coming out of Year 12.

They've got circa 45 years at work ahead of them, the year isn't going to make a huge difference, if they go to uni heaps do a 'gap year'/travel anyway.

I said the same thing 2 days ago Franco, in my day you did yr12 at 17, today they're 18 and if we lost a year they'd be 19, its not the end of the world, in fact it would have its benefits in so many ways, those who would graduate this year wont be competing with those of us looking for work when this ends, kids who struggle doing yr8 at 13 will have another year of maturity under their belts, its hard to find a negative, my own Son thinks it would be awesome as he'd have 2 years of driving himself to school as opposed to the 1 year he'll have now.
If keeping things as they are had any gauranteed positive other than acting as creches for a fraction of the families id say fair enough, but I don't see it.

If you want my honest opinion it has nothing to do with healthcare workers or kids in shopping centres, I think the fact that private schools had no issue closing and transitioning to online systems is telling, I think its a case of trying to do the same with state schools would highlight the inequalities and deficiencies within the state system and that's something they don't want exposed.

hayseed · 24-03-2020, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Even if the kids have to resit the year over again is it that much of a big deal from an education perspective? They'll be 19 coming out of Year 12.

They've got circa 45 years at work ahead of them, the year isn't going to make a huge difference, if they go to uni heaps do a 'gap year'/travel anyway.

Try telling them that! & tell me how you get On...

I've got One here you can practice On....

Franco Cozzo · 24-03-2020, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hayseed

Try telling them that! & tell me how you get On...

I've got One here you can practice On....

If my parents told me that I had the rest of the year off from school and it restarts next year I'd have been over the moon

Sioso · 24-03-2020, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

If my parents told me that I had the rest of the year off from school and it restarts next year I'd have been over the moon

Yeah my Son is thrilled.
Already hit us with "I can stay up late every night as I don't have school in the morning".

**Polyal** · 24-03-2020, 02:37 PM

BENT 8 you honestly think private and gov schools will ever be the same, mate its not possible and thats actually the point.

But, in saying that, the basic curriculum is there and available for everyone. You dont need a laptop for every kid to at least try and keep the basics going.

Tonight and tomorrow will be interesting, not sure how WFH and kids here actually works, WFH was bad enough.

BENT_8 · 24-03-2020, 02:47 PM

was just looking at the national COVID19 growth rate graph, its jumped 100% in 4 days.
Looking at the National school holidays it appears that with the exception of QLD and Victoria(who have already broken for holidays I might add), every other State still has 2.5wks of school until the holidays begin, any guesses for how many people will be infected in 16 days..?

turbo4 · 24-03-2020, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BENT_8

was just looking at the national COVID19 growth rate graph, its jumped 100% in 4 days.
Looking at the National school holidays it appears that with the exception of QLD and Victoria(who have already broken for holidays I might add), every other State still has 2.5wks of school until the holidays begin, any guesses for how many people will be infected in 16 days..?

10-20,000, possibly more. All depends on the effectiveness of the current restrictions.

BENT_8 · 24-03-2020, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Polyal

BENT 8 you honestly think private and gov schools will ever be the same, mate its not possible and thats actually the point.

Not at all, I had a private school education and my Wife attended the best regional State School in SA and 28yrs ago we we're a good 2yrs ahead of them to the point where I'd help her with her yr12 homework and I only stayed to yr10.
Im not suggesting it should be equal, im simply saying that many schools don't have the resources even between state schools never mind state v private.

Bossxr8 · 24-03-2020, 02:51 PM

I want to question why the unemployed and pensioners are the ones getting the government cash. These people will be the least effected by the coronavirus. Yes they are the ones who need it the most, but they were that way before the virus came along.

And i'm not suggesting they don't deserve something coming their way, because they do it tough. Just that nothing is really going to change for them now.

It's the masses going onto the dole que now that needed to be budgeted for. And job creation.

But pensioners having some extra cash will get some money back into the system.

BENT_8 · 24-03-2020, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I want to question why the unemployed and pensioners are the ones getting the government cash. These people will be the least effected by the coronavirus. Yes they are the ones who need it the most, but they were that way before the virus came along.

And i'm not suggesting they don't deserve something coming their way, because they do it tough. Just that nothing is really going to change for them now.

It's the masses going onto the dole que now that needed to be budgeted for. And job creation.

But pensioners having some extra cash will get some money back into the system.

Because they'll spend it, they'll spend every dollar because they're not use to having it.

**Cav** · 24-03-2020, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

I want to question why the unemployed and pensioners are the ones getting the government cash. These people will be the least effected by the coronavirus. Yes they are the ones who need it the most, but they were that way before the virus came along.

And i'm not suggesting they don't deserve something coming their way, because they do it tough. Just that nothing is really going to change for them now.

It's the masses going onto the dole que now that needed to be budgeted for. And job creation.

But pensioners having some extra cash will get some money back into the system.

The pension for a couple is about $630 each a fortnight.

They will get a one off payment of $750 each

The dole has just been doubled for a single person to about $1100 fortnight

burnz · 24-03-2020, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Cav

The pension for a couple is about $630 each a fortnight.

They will get a one off payment of $750 each

The dole has just been doubled for a single person to about $1100 fortnight

because all the worker will be on the dole soon.

Franco Cozzo · 24-03-2020, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cav

The pension for a couple is about $630 each a fortnight.

They will get a one off payment of $750 each

The dole has just been doubled for a single person to about $1100 fortnight

That's like close to only $400 less than I was getting paid per fortnight gross as a fully qualified LV auto electrician in 2014

roKWiz · 24-03-2020, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

That's like close to only $400 less than I was getting paid per fortnight gross as a fully qualified LV auto electrician in 2014

Not bad. Why do we bother slaving away. I reckon I could live on $550 a week.

Pis-ton broke · 24-03-2020, 09:43 PM

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Not bad. Why do we bother slaving away. I reckon I could live on $550 a week.

back in the old days there was rental assistance too, which pushed it up.

ford71V8 · 24-03-2020, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by roKWiz

Not bad. Why do we bother slaving away. I reckon I could live on $550 a week.

Got that right.

This is happening at a time when I'm trying to get my 14yo to put a little more effort back into things like schoolwork. He's gotten a little lazy this year.
But there's a lot of examples around right now of Why Bother?
Just gotta point out all the other examples of why you should, but feels like you are up against sometimes.

hayseed · 24-03-2020, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

That's like close to only $400 less than I was getting paid per fortnight gross as a fully qualified LV auto electrician in 2014

Factor in the concessions/entitlements the Dole recipient gets, & there's not much in It..!!! i would reckon..

marty351 · 25-03-2020, 01:17 AM

Rockwiz...

Nah, you couldn't.
Car $$$
Rent $$
Clothing $
Generic food brands $¢¢
Bbq + gas/beads

Phone/internet ¢¢¢
Extra curricular activities

Restaurants/take away/home delivery

Anyrhing else

ford71V8 · 24-03-2020, 03:32 PM

The doubling of the dole has us here confused also.
Wife suggested they also get an extra one-off payment of another $750 too, I've not yet confirmed that part.
But feeling the same. Particularly when my wife is out doing age-care, now bringing in less than the unemployed (granted she is not doing 40hrs/wk, but still doing 5-6hours a day & PHols)
Govt just found 66Bill under a cushion and throwing out the window?!

BENT, sorry to hear about your job. I can see you were well aware of the possibility but still not nice when it happens. All the best with what ever comes next for you.
My older son is hurting right now. Poor fella has done a good job creating his own PT business since leaving school. Making enough money to pay all the bills, while managing to save for the house dream deposit. Last 2 days has destroyed it. I haven't talked to him yet about options, he's not feeling too chatty right now. I'm feeling for him.
Daughter and her partner work in childcare (local OHSC) so they are getting twitchy.

prydey · 24-03-2020, 03:42 PM

Lots of chicken little (sky is falling) syndrome in here and very little evidence based claims.

Also while human health is important the govt can't simply turn its back on the economy. That would end far worse than the virus.

Time to calm down peeps.

zipping · 24-03-2020, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by prydey

Lots of chicken little (sky is falling) syndrome in here and very little evidence based claims.

Also while human health is important the govt can't simply turn its back on the economy. That would end far worse than the virus.

Time to calm down peeps.

I thought this originally, taking it very seriously now.

Rate of infection is high 15-20% per day and Oz has 2k ICU beds most of which are in use.

The math is not great on this if you assume 10-15% of those infected will require hospitalisation.

On our way to at least 5-10k infected (1895 atm) - min 750-1500 beds needed.

Citroënbender · 24-03-2020, 03:50 PM

Tip was interesting today. OH&S resolution to minimise weighbridge staff exposure to the great unwashed, resulting in a plastic bollard being placed 1.5m from the window where you disclose your load and details on the inward leg.

Of course it doesn’t bloody work, vehicles are too noisy for the staff to hear so they lean out of the window towards the driver, breaching the space requirement and straining their necks... I noticed later today someone had simply run over the bollard, fully destroying it and all was back to usual.

Outgoing weighbridge (D) told me that the isolationists are decluttering, yard-clearing and whatever else in an effort to mitigate cabin fever, and the tip processed over 3000 transactions through the weekend. Asked old mate, did they offer OT, apparently yes but “I just wanted to get away from the ****s and go home to have a ****ing beer!”.

Descriptive snapshots of the Australia dear to my heart.

five 7 · 24-03-2020, 05:36 PM

Your Govt might want to take a look at how we are getting through this in NZ, Total lock down of all the country from midnight tomorrow for a month, all employees qualify for $585 per week x12, issued in one lump plus a six month mortgage/interest freeze if you require. They are also talking about offering business loans over three years to keep them afloat, not a fan of Jacinda and co but they seem to be handling this well.

zipping · 24-03-2020, 05:43 PM

Although in regards to my above post there is/maybe some good data coming out of the US

https://twitter.com/AdamMilstein/sta...41027324301312

**X-AHH** · 24-03-2020, 05:50 PM

I can't find any information regarding what I need to do driving back to Adelaide from the NT next week. SAPOL and other government websites are not very helpful at all. All I want to know is whether I can travel all the way home to self isolate or if I'm required to stop at the first roadhouse with accommodation or town and spend my 14 days?

roKWiz · 24-03-2020, 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by xahh

I can't find any information regarding what I need to do driving back to Adelaide from the NT next week. SAPOL and other government websites are not very helpful at all. All I want to know is whether I can travel all the way home to self isolate or if I'm required to stop at the first roadhouse with accommodation or town and spend my 14 days?

Hammer down and don't look back.