Covid 19 -

[russellw]

The USA continues to cop a hammering. They have had a week of more than 60k cases per day, have more than 3.5M cases in total of which 1.6M are currently active and the mortality rate (MR) is around 66/100k adults.

Some States are doing it worse than others. New York continues to head the number of cases and deaths with almost 12% of all US cases and 23% of the total deaths despite only having 5.87% of the US population. They also have one of the highest CMRs at 7.55% as well as 167 deaths per 100k.

California moved up a spot into 2nd place but they only have 9.8% of cases and 5.3% of the deaths despite being 12% of the population and the CMR is only 2% while the MR is 18.5/100k.

Florida (home of the aged) jumped up 5 places to be 3rd worst. They have 8.4% of cases, 3.2% of deaths and 6.6% of the population and the CMR is a surprisingly low 1.5% while the MR is 20.6/100k.

Texas also jumped up two spots into 4th with 8.3% of cases, 2.6% of deaths and 8.9% of the population. CMR is 1.22% and MR 12.3/100k.

New Jersey improved three positions into 5th with 5% of cases; 11.2% of deaths but only 2.9% of the population. CMR is the second worst in the country at 8.62% and the 175.74/100k MR is the worst.

Illinois also dropped a couple of places into 6th. They have 4.4% of cases, 5.2% of deaths and 3.8% of the population. CMR is 4.6% and MR 57.2/100k.

Arizona is the biggest mover, up 11 places into 7th with 3.6% of cases, 1.7% of deaths and 2.2% of the population. CMR is 1.85% and MR 33/100k.

Georgia also moves up 3 spots to 8th with with 3.5% of cases, 2.2% of deaths and 3.2% of the population. CMR is 2.4% and MR 29/100k.

Massachusetts improves 4 places down to 9th with 3.1% of cases, 6.0% of deaths and 2.1% of the population. CMR is third worst at 7.45% and MR 119/100k.

Pennsylvania also improves two spots in 10th with 2.8% of cases, 5.0% of deaths and 3.9% of the population. CMR is 6.86% and MR 55/100k.

Outside the worst 10, a couple of others are noteworthy:

Connecticut with 1.3% of cases, 3.1% of deaths and 1.0% of the population. CMR is worst in the country at 9.19% and the MR of 123/100k, the second worst.

Montana with 0.06% of cases, 0.02% of deaths and 0.33% of the population. CMR is 1.62% but the MR of 3.1/100k is the lowest of the mainland states (Hawaii and Alaska are lower).

[Franco Cozzo]

I work in Brimbank council region, not many wearing masks, saw an old lady wearing a mask today at the servo and one of the couriers was but that was it.

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I work in Brimbank council region, not many wearing masks, saw an old lady wearing a mask today at the servo and one of the couriers was but that was it.

Is it any surprise that this side of town has the most COVID infections? Brimbank Council has the 4th highest of all VIC.

Top 20 dimwit areas:
(as of 07:44 16/07/20)



For the full list see link below, page 3.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...RjNGViOWYyOCJ9

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Is it any surprise that this side of town has the most COVID infections? Brimbank Council has the 4th highest of all VIC.

Top 20 dimwit areas:
(as of 07:44 16/07/20)

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For the full list see link below, page 3.

https://app.powerbi.com/view?r=eyJrI...RjNGViOWYyOCJ9

Take the top five and look at their demographics out of interest

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Take the top five and look at their demographics out of interest

Removing the city of Melbourne council out of the top 5, the rest is just a clusterf**k.

Obviously the Niqab and Burka doesn't work as effectively as a proper face mask.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Removing the city of Melbourne council out of the top 5, the rest is just a clusterf**k.

Obviously the Niqab and Burka doesn't work as effectively as a proper face mask.

No one wearing masks at all today who i encountered out and about in Brimbank, not even couriers.

I'm not either though I guess I can't be too critical

[MITCHAY]

Job numbers are pretty grim when you consider the amount on JobKeeper payments. What happens when that gets cut?

We have the talking heads saying the stats are so small so why hold things back but they rarely include in their rants that perhaps they are that low because of the measures we have taken to keep those stats down. Complain about the debt we are getting into but won't live enough to pay any of it. Or don't want to wind back anything in the tax system either

Dead or ill people can't work or pay taxes by the way

[blueoval]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

Job numbers are pretty grim when you consider the amount on JobKeeper payments. What happens when that gets cut?

We have the talking heads saying the stats are so small so why hold things back but they rarely include in their rants that perhaps they are that low because of the measures we have taken to keep those stats down. Complain about the debt we are getting into but won't live enough to pay any of it. Or don't want to wind back anything in the tax system either

Dead or ill people can't work or pay taxes by the way

The idea is to keep printing more money until the system collapses. Keep pretending that the economy will survive and print more money. Spread more fear and more doubt and push society towards the government or higher for an answer.

[russellw]

323 new cases for Australia and 2 deaths so CMR drops to 1.045% and active cases rise to 2,662. WA recorded 3, NSW recorded 10 and SA 1 with the balance in Victoria which set a new daily high for new cases.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.421% and active cases rise to 27.

The UK recorded 641 new cases and 66 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.423%.

Just under 72k new cases in the USA yesterday and 1,001 deaths sees CMR down to 3.875% and active cases at 50.6% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
The USA completes 45M, Russia 24M and Peru 2M tests;
The USA recorded more than 70k new cases;
India passes the 1M case milestone;
South America passes 3M cases;
Asia recorded a new daily high with 63,012 new cases;
North America recorded a new daily high with 84,355 new cases;

Costa Rica (560), Algeria (584), Philippines (2,498), Argentina (4,236), Colombia (8,037) and India35,468 all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[MITCHAY]

Another 400 for Vic wow.

We were so close to having zero active cases here

[Sprintey]

428, and ABC ran a banner 'regional Victorians to wear masks outside' - did Govt say this or was that a media conflation of masks for when you can't get >1.5m in Stage 3 areas?

Regional testing centres being set up, and teams for contact tracing being established in the regions... there must be spread after the school holidays

Premier also told off people within the Stage 3 metro area doing 200km round trip to Mornington...

[Tickford.]

New Zealand be like...




Australian government laughed at NZ for choosing to go into full lockdown. Let's see, 76 days now without a single community transmission. And counting. They've been on level 1 restrictions since June 8th.

Look who's laughing now.

Scott Morrison said on 1st April: "Some organisations advocated much stronger measures. I said to be careful what you wish for, because we will have to live with it for at least six months."

Well 2 months later (not 6 months Mr PM), NZ is almost back to normal.

[nstg8a]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

New Zealand be like...

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Australian government laughed at NZ for choosing to go into full lockdown. Let's see, 76 days now without a single community transmission. And counting. They've been on level 1 restrictions since June 8th.

Look who's laughing now.

Scott Morrison said on 1st April: "Some organisations advocated much stronger measures. I said to be careful what you wish for, because we will have to live with it for at least six months."

Well 2 months later (not 6 months Mr PM), NZ is almost back to normal.

Nz has been extremely lucky that those quarantine debacles didn’t create a Victorian style outbreak...
it only takes one person to stuff it up, and with nz having virtually no restrictions it will spread faster and undetected until too late...

Too early to act smug.

[FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Well 2 months later (not 6 months Mr PM), NZ is almost back to normal.

For now. There's a long road ahead in this battle and if anything can be learnt from the situation in Victoria it is that it doesn't take much for things to get out of hand again very quickly.

Ever heard the saying "Don't count your chickens before they hatch"?

[Tickford.]

Originally Posted by FoxtrotGolfXray 5.0

Ever heard the saying "Don't count your chickens before they hatch"?

Ever heard the saying 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth'?

Scotty was advised to take much stronger measures. He chose to ignore the advice, and even said "Be careful what you wish for".

Scotty has f**ked up. Simples. And has now taken a back seat while Danny Boy takes the spotlight. MIA even. Only headline he has made lately is him waving a scarf at the footy.

[prydey]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

Ever heard the saying 'Don't look a gift horse in the mouth'?

Scotty was advised to take much stronger measures. He chose to ignore the advice, and even said "Be careful what you wish for".

Scotty has f**ked up. Simples. And has now taken a back seat while Danny Boy takes the spotlight. MIA even. Only headline he has made lately is him waving a scarf at the footy.

Ummm, last I looked Australia was bigger than Melbourne... the majority of Australia is doing pretty well.

What's the population of nz and how densely populated are the cities?

Bit like comparing apples and oranges.

[PooDog]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

New Zealand be like...

image


Australian government laughed at NZ for choosing to go into full lockdown. Let's see, 76 days now without a single community transmission. And counting. They've been on level 1 restrictions since June 8th.

Look who's laughing now.

Scott Morrison said on 1st April: "Some organisations advocated much stronger measures. I said to be careful what you wish for, because we will have to live with it for at least six months."

Well 2 months later (not 6 months Mr PM), NZ is almost back to normal.

It has caused a lot of damage over here, must admit i was curious as to how you guys were acheiving better results over there ....maybe the testing wasnt as good ? who knows

most of the ones that have got out have been determined to do such , scale fences , short of locking them up in a form of prison ....all you can do is monitor cthem closely ?

Interesting the PM has come out warning of an out break similar to Vic and the medias tearing her down for being scare tactics? yet they,ll be the first to whine if it does happen , bit of a no win scenario .....its getting all political because theres an election round the corner.....getting sick of listening to it

[blueoval]

$400M cash boost for foreign film investment from ScoMo.

[russellw]

425 new cases for Australia and 3 deaths so CMR drops to 1.032% and active cases rise to 3,002. WA recorded 2, NSW recorded 8 and the balance were in Victoria which set a daily high for new cases for the 2nd day in a row.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.420% and active cases drop to 22.

The UK recorded 687 new cases and 114 deaths yesterday so the CMR rises to 15.425%.

Just over 78k new cases in the USA yesterday and 974 deaths sees CMR down to 3.819% and active cases at 50.7% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 14M, the last 1M in only 4 days;
Global cases set a new daily record of 249,233;
The USA recorded more than 70k new cases;
India completes 13M and the USA 46M tests;
Africa recorded a new daily high with 20,489 new cases;
Asia recorded a new daily high with 63,411 new cases;
North America recorded a new daily high with 84,926 new cases;

Algeria (593), Bolivia (1,938), Argentina (4,518), Colombia (8,934) and the USA (78,198) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.

[Franco Cozzo]

I see parliament isn't going to go ahead

I'd hate to see their inaction during a war.

Maybe we should do what the AFL has done and isolate all the pollies in Parliament House - set up some bunk beds and keep em isolated together so they can still do their jobs

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

I see parliament isn't going to go ahead

I'd hate to see their inaction during a war.

Maybe we should do what the AFL has done and isolate all the pollies in Parliament House - set up some bunk beds and keep em isolated together so they can still do their jobs

Heard on the local news here this morning, a few Victorian country politicians are calling for further lockdown restrictions of Melbournites, seems there are too many sneaking out into the country.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by roKWiz

Heard on the local news here this morning, a few Victorian country politicians are calling for further lockdown restrictions of Melbournites, seems there are too many sneaking out into the country.

Id handle it by either:

A) Vulnerable groups isolate themselves and everyone else goes about business as usual

B) Alternatively lockdown is limited to hotspot areas by council region

[b0son]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

B) Alternatively lockdown is limited to hotspot areas by council region

The problem with that approach is that positive tests only provide you a snapshots of contacts up to two weeks ago.

While the problem may not have originated at the BLM protests, it's quite likely it helped transmission along, and now rather than being clustered in a handful of locales, it may well be all over Melbourne, and we're just waiting for the incubation period to pass.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Id handle it by either:

A) Vulnerable groups isolate themselves and everyone else goes about business as usual

B) Alternatively lockdown is limited to hotspot areas by council region

Go about their business spreading it.
Nah lock it down, we don't want them here. Aren't you in the Mitchell shire ?

[HIPO]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Id handle it by either:

A) Vulnerable groups isolate themselves and everyone else goes about business as usual

B) Alternatively lockdown is limited to hotspot areas by council region

Yep A).... Like they've done almost every other time!

[.:4:.]

That does sound rediculous. Unrelated cause of death yet having or had the virus.
Now not playing anything down at all. But the recent spikes, could that possibly be due to the greater availability of testing? By that i mean initially to get tested you had to be showing symptoms to get tested, and some people show no symptoms, yet now can get tested easier? So maybe initial numbers were 'lower' due to the lack of availability of testing. Just an observation of mine, no science behind it.

[T3rminator]

Originally Posted by .:4:.

That does sound rediculous. Unrelated cause of death yet having or had the virus.

Now not playing anything down at all. But the recent spikes, could that possibly be due to the greater availability of testing? By that i mean initially to get tested you had to be showing symptoms to get tested, and some people show no symptoms, yet now can get tested easier? So maybe initial numbers were 'lower' due to the lack of availability of testing. Just an observation of mine, no science behind it.

Makes perfect sense. Take it to the extreme, if you don't test you will have zero cases to report, unless they turn up in hospital.

Melbournians have been having intense testing. The line at chaddy is like a 3 hr wait from news reports.

[Tickford.]

There seems to be some concern for people from regional Victoria who commute into the city and N/W Melbourne for work. They could get infected and take COVID home with them. Specially on the regional train lines. Geelong and Shepparton in the spotlight it seems.

Unable to work from home?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by Tickford.

There seems to be some concern for people from regional Victoria who commute into the city and N/W Melbourne for work. They could get infected and take COVID home with them. Specially on the regional train lines. Geelong and Shepparton in the spotlight it seems.

Unable to work from home?

I could do most of my work from home, same with the rest of the office staff - assuming the rest of the coalface are there working the warehouse and production, just need to redirect phones or push everyone to email, it's just means you couldn't come in and talk to me face to face and it'd hamper some of my capabilities, it'd effectively make us function the same as our interstate branches.

They don't want us working from home though.

Coronavirus: Melbourne conspiracy group tells people to reject tests and masks

An emerging and dangerous group of coronavirus deniers is pushing an alarming theory that the COVID-19 pandemic is a government conspiracy, and people should *ignore social-distancing rules and refuse to be tested.

As Victoria grapples with soaring numbers of the coronavirus, including a record 428 new cases on Friday, The Weekend Australian can reveal that a group called 99% Unite is telling its tens of thousands of online followers the deadly virus is just a cover for the global elite to consolidate their control over the masses.

Led by Melburnians Fanos Panayides and Raphael Fernandez, the group operates across several pages on Facebook in an apparent attempt to evade the *social media giant’s crackdown on misinformation.

The largest page was started in April and boasts more than 65,000 members. The 99% Unite follows and promotes a web of anti-public health theories, including that the coronavirus pandemic is a cover for the elite to solidify their power as well as bleeding into existing conspiracies around vaccinations and 5G technology.

The group, which tells its followers not to wear masks and to reject coronavirus tests, is planning a large protest later this month against what it sees as the coronavirus conspiracy.

Academics, community leaders and politicians have all urged people against following 99% Unite’s message, saying it is dan*gerous and ignores science and medical advice around the virus.

In a video posted on Friday, Mr Panayides urged his followers to look out for a smiley face ahead of a demonstration, which he said required half a million people.

“Half a million (people) is what you need standing there in *silence,” he said. “What’s going on around the world is just the beginning to mass genocide. Don’t sit there and say I didn’t tell you that something was going on when you see people dropping like flies, when they go and stick people with a vaccine for a virus that your Prime Minister has to lie about the death rate for.”

In a video posted on Thursday night, Mr Panayides questioned whether the Victorian government recommended wearing masks in a bid to weaken the public’s immune system.

“What would be the sinister reason for wanting someone to wear a mask?” he said. “Maybe it’s so your body is constantly being suffocated of oxygen.”

When The Weekend Australian asked Mr Panayides why he was making claims without scientific backing, he replied he had done countless hours of research.

“You do know there are over 10,000 scientific peer reviews which state dangers of EMF radiation on people,” he said.

Islamic community leaders fear the message is being spread through social media and is taking hold within some Melbourne Muslim communities and are pleading for it to be ignored. An Islamic community elder, who declined to be named, said he was alarmed by the message.

“These conspiracy theorists need to be carefully monitored. Facebook and other social media platforms need to be responsible for the content being put on the net,” he said.

“This particular group who is very vocal are also against health messaging and are asking people to refuse COVID testing.”

Mr Ferndandez along with Mr Panayides and another man visited the public housing in Flemington when nine towers were under “hard lockdown” by the Victorian government. In a post to one of the 99% Unite groups on July 7, Mr Fernandez said the hard tower lockdowns were the government testing the limits of the public.

“This is a plandemic, hoax and a test to see how much Australians will take and how many resources they need for what’s coming,” he said. “The great awakening is here and the world has woken up.”

Earlier in July, Victorian Health Minister Jenny Mikakos revealed 10,000 people in hotspot suburbs had declined to be tested, with some stating a belief that the coronavirus was a conspiracy.

La Trobe University research fellow Stanley Shanapinda said misplaced fears around the coronavirus drew on a legacy of different conspiracies, including 5G and anti-vaccination.

“The amplification we see is these various smaller clusters coming together,” he said.

Mr Shanapinda said the influence of the anti-vaxx movement was particularly worrying as it could lead to people refusing vaccinations against the coronavirus if and when one was developed.

“People are refusing to get the test because they think it’s a conspiracy,” he said. “So if a vaccine is found, you will have the same number of people saying no we don’t want it.”

The warning comes after Richmond AFL star Bachar Houli took to Facebook to urge the Muslim community to undergo testing for the coronavirus. He also revealed that his mother was battling the disease in intensive care.

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nat...552687149abe88

I see our friends and brains trust from the division of Calwell are planning protests.

https://www.aec.gov.au/profiles/vic/calwell.htm

Check out the location description in the above link and compare it to COVID19 cases

Said electorate was also one of only two electorates in VIC where they were against SSM - check out these comments by their MP

Calwell federal Labor MP Maria Vamvakinou said opponents* should not be fearful and instead called on the community to come together.

Ms Vamvakinou said, while the majority of her constituents ticked no, she would respect the national result.

Religion played a large part in why the electorate voted against, she said.

Hume is the most religious municipality in Victoria, according* to census data.

“I understand where the vote has come from and I respect* it because most of the vote would have come in good faith,” Ms Vamvakinou said.

“It’s not about being homophobic or bigoted but rather there are people who have very strong views about traditional family and what that is and they are guided very strongly by their faith.”

There's a pattern occurring here.

https://www.heraldsun.com.au/leader/...15ec0165d6942a

[russellw]

206 new cases for Australia and 2 deaths so CMR drops to 1.031% and active cases rise to 3,162. WA recorded 1, NSW recorded 15 and the balance were in Victoria.

1 new case and no deaths for NZ so CMR is 1.419% and active cases remain at 22.

The UK recorded 827 new cases and 40 deaths yesterday so the CMR drops to 15.396%.

Just under 75k new cases in the USA yesterday and 946 deaths sees CMR down to 3.768% and active cases at 50.0% but the raw numbers are rising. Note that the USA is actually minus one day due to time differences.

Other notable points:
Global cases pass 14M, the last 1M in only 4 days;
Global cases set a new daily record of 249,233;
The USA recorded more than 70k new cases;
The UK completes 13M and the USA 47M tests;
Asia recorded a new daily high with 63,422 new cases;
North America recorded a new daily high with 86,657 new cases;

Libya (87), Costa Rica (582), Algeria (601), Kenya (688), Kyrgyzstan (803), Bolivia (1,946) and India (37,407) all recorded new daily highs, those in blue for the second consecutive day and those in red for a third or more consecutive day.