Petrol Price crisis......

[FTE217]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

What do you mean 'coming'? There's been big social problems around Melbourne for the past decade, while it continually hides under 'most liveable city' bull**** title, there's been a HUGE increase in the amount of homeless people calling the CBD home in that time, massive amounts of violent crime in the less affluent outer suburbs that no one seemed to notice until it happened in Brighton.

Your post does cover alot whats been going on in Melb and many have their heads in the sand down there living in past.....
I have been a regular business traveller there for the last 30yrs.
Got to say it was once miles ahead of messy Sydney of its roads and the general day to day outlook.
Its chip on its shoulder to be the No1 city over Sydney is a crown of thorns that now is giving.
Years ago traffic at peak was way better but the last 10yrs or so its caught up to Sydney hands down, infact at least in Sydney you can speed reasonably without being pinged whereas Melb, well always been the 0 tolerance State.
Sydney's homeless was isolated around the Cross and Woolloomollo Melb now has just as much and wider from my observations.
I was there last week for 2days, what a nightmare to drive around the CBD and close burbs.
The amount of For Lease signs far out weighs Sydney from observations as well.
Another good job there Dan.
Unemployed youth around the city streets makes you very sus walking around some parts.
Heaps of development going on just wonder what future tenants can afford the rentals the way its going talking about fuel costs for one and the ongoing increase's cost of living...........

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by FTE217

Your post does cover alot whats been going on in Melb and many have their heads in the sand down there living in past.....
I have been a regular business traveller there for the last 30yrs.
Got to say it was once miles ahead of messy Sydney of its roads and the general day to day outlook.
Its chip on its shoulder to be the No1 city over Sydney is a crown of thorns that now is giving.
Years ago traffic at peak was way better but the last 10yrs or so its caught up to Sydney hands down, infact at least in Sydney you can speed reasonably without being pinged whereas Melb, well always been the 0 tolerance State.
Sydney's homeless was isolated around the Cross and Woolloomollo Melb now has just as much and wider from my observations.
I was there last week for 2days, what a nightmare to drive around the CBD and close burbs.
The amount of For Lease signs far out weighs Sydney from observations as well.
Another good job there Dan.
Unemployed youth around the city streets makes you very sus walking around some parts.
Heaps of development going on just wonder what future tenants can afford the rentals the way its going talking about fuel costs for one and the ongoing increase's cost of living...........

Basically all that's going to happen is in 15-20 years time is that Melbourne is going to have an outer slum ring of the reffo suburbs where it's all poorly planned out cheap housing and no services where the 'working poor' exist who have various degrees but can't find work in their fields and work in cash in hand service jobs/gig economy and then the nicer inner parts of Melbourne suburbia where the affluent live and you'll just be one or the other while the 'most liveable city' award only considers the inner 5km radius around the CBD conveniently ignoring the huge hobo camp that Flinders Street Station is.

I'm currently out and about right now in one of the new fledgling reffo suburbs

[kypez]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Basically all that's going to happen is in 15-20 years time is that Melbourne is going to have an outer slum ring of the reffo suburbs where it's all poorly planned out cheap housing and no services where the 'working poor' exist who have various degrees but can't find work in their fields and work in cash in hand service jobs/gig economy and then the nicer inner parts of Melbourne suburbia where the affluent live and you'll just be one or the other while the 'most liveable city' award only considers the inner 5km radius around the CBD.

You mean like almost every major city in the world?

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by kypez

You mean like almost every major city in the world?

Yep, but Melbourne's very own version of the caste system,

I'm currently sitting in the northern suburbs in a massive paddock where there's a housing estate in the works under those high voltage power lines and no rail or freeway infrastructure nearby.

[roKWiz]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

Basically all that's going to happen is in 15-20 years time is that Melbourne is going to have an outer slum ring of the reffo suburbs where it's all poorly planned out cheap housing and no services where the 'working poor' exist who have various degrees but can't find work in their fields and work in cash in hand service jobs/gig economy and then the nicer inner parts of Melbourne suburbia where the affluent live and you'll just be one or the other while the 'most liveable city' award only considers the inner 5km radius around the CBD conveniently ignoring the huge hobo camp that Flinders Street Station is.

I'm currently out and about right now in one of the new fledgling reffo suburbs

You mean just like $ydney.