Used car prices

[Syndrome]

My brother purchased a MY12 VE SS-V Redline sedan with manual box in 2013 ex-demo for $37.7k. He just sold the same car this week for $37.5.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7450790/?Cr=3

[MITCHAY]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

My brother purchased a MY12 VE SS-V Redline sedan with manual box in 2013 ex-demo for $37.7k. He just sold the same car this week for $37.5.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7450790/?Cr=3

I came across this one a while back during my casual browsing and thought it looked like a good deal.

[Syndrome]

Originally Posted by MITCHAY

I came across this one a while back during my casual browsing and thought it looked like a good deal.

Never crashed or thrashed. And my Richardhead brother does not have much of a life outside of work so genuinely low mileage. Reason for recent VIC number plates is he lived in Perth until 2019 so car had WA plates from new until his move.

[BENT_8]

Picked up an FG XT in lightning strike today, country car owned by 1 family since 2012 and serviced by a mechanic in the family.
Done a few k's and needs a couple of things like drivers seat base foam and power mirror switch but apart from that in real tidy condition, no diff bush noise, trans smooth.
Picked it up for $4k.

Brought it home, detailed it and gave the headlights a resto.

[fordomatic]

Originally Posted by Syndrome

My brother purchased a MY12 VE SS-V Redline sedan with manual box in 2013 ex-demo for $37.7k. He just sold the same car this week for $37.5.

https://www.carsales.com.au/cars/det...-7450790/?Cr=3

Still the worst car Holden ever made, such junk. The interior of my R8 was falling apart with rattles everywhere at 60,000km.

[bb_zetec]

Originally Posted by fordomatic

Still the worst car Holden ever made, such junk. The interior of my R8 was falling apart with rattles everywhere at 60,000km.

We just got rid of or VF SV6 Wagon...the drive is woeful in these things.

The GM V6 engine torque is basically either on or off, it doesnt have the smooth power delivery that the Barra does.

The Auto felt and drove like the old 4/5 speed Ford ones did, thumping into gear rather than the smooth change you expect. The only thing going for them is the interior is modern and thats about it.

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by bb_zetec

We just got rid of or VF SV6 Wagon...the drive is woeful in these things.

The GM V6 engine torque is basically either on or off, it doesnt have the smooth power delivery that the Barra does.

The Auto felt and drove like the old 4/5 speed Ford ones did, thumping into gear rather than the smooth change you expect. The only thing going for them is the interior is modern and thats about it.

We have one as a company car - the VF SV6, the killer is how doughy the throttle is mapped, then it has no torque under 4500 RPM, the pedal does nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing then its like now we're going, its like it has a huge dead zone.

Plus how slow the trans is to react to your throttle inputs, I reckon its a combination of the throttle mapping taking ages to react to your inputs and then the lack of torque making it worse.

My solution is get stuck into it everywhere

Its a shame because aside from that its a great car, the stereo is a bit average though.

[DFB FGXR6]

Originally Posted by Franco Cozzo

We have one as a company car - the VF SV6, the killer is how doughy the throttle is mapped, then it has no torque under 4500 RPM, the pedal does nothing nothing nothing nothing nothing then its like now we're going, its like it has a huge dead zone.

Plus how slow the trans is to react to your throttle inputs, I reckon its a combination of the throttle mapping taking ages to react to your inputs and then the lack of torque making it worse.

My solution is get stuck into it everywhere

Its a shame because aside from that its a great car, the stereo is a bit average though.

A lot of that would have been a calibration for fuel economy.

I have no doubt Holden engineers could have made that horrible V6 more responsive but the marketing department would have been demanding fuel economy improvements to help with fleet sales.

I know early FG's had quite urgent throttle response early on in the pedal travel, something that took me a while to acclimatize to, and something that catches others out if they jump in and drive the thing.

[bb_zetec]

Originally Posted by DFB FGXR6

A lot of that would have been a calibration for fuel economy.

I have no doubt Holden engineers could have made that horrible V6 more responsive but the marketing department would have been demanding fuel economy improvements to help with fleet sales.

I know early FG's had quite urgent throttle response early on in the pedal travel, something that took me a while to acclimatize to, and something that catches others out if they jump in and drive the thing.

As Franco and yourself said the V6 Just revs and does not move, and it sounds terrible to boot. The FG is like chalk and cheese compared to that.
My wife sometimes drives our ute and she gets a bit scared from the power sometimes, but nevertheless she dosent mind taking out every now and then.

Every time i drove it it was miserable. If we could get the VF Door Trims and parts of the Dash into the FG then it would be the perfect match.

The VF seats are also terrible...so hard that they would give me sciatica pain after 30 minutes. People critisize the FG seats....wait till you sit in VF!

[Franco Cozzo]

Originally Posted by bb_zetec

As Franco and yourself said the V6 Just revs and does not move, and it sounds terrible to boot. The FG is like chalk and cheese compared to that.
My wife sometimes drives our ute and she gets a bit scared from the power sometimes, but nevertheless she dosent mind taking out every now and then.

Every time i drove it it was miserable. If we could get the VF Door Trims and parts of the Dash into the FG then it would be the perfect match.

The VF seats are also terrible...so hard that they would give me sciatica pain after 30 minutes. People critisize the FG seats....wait till you sit in VF!

The problem with the VF seats is they're too wide, the side bolstering isn't tight enough to hold you in the seat - I'm a fat bastard, if I'm flopping around in the seat and it's not holding me in the seat well then whose it made for

If you have a lower back injury it'll show up as tightness/pain in your lower back or sciatic nerve pain down the back of your legs if you're driving something without good support in the seat to hold you in nicely.

If I need a crowbar to wedge myself out of the driver's seat then that's the go

I think the only way to solve the problem with the VF is only buy the L77/LS3 variants - if it has less than 8 cylinders then pass it up

If we're whinging about the LFX Commodores imagine how crap the Alloytec pre VEII variants drive - she's no Ecotec.

[willo56]

Originally Posted by bb_zetec

The VF seats are also terrible...so hard that they would give me sciatica pain after 30 minutes. People critisize the FG seats....wait till you sit in VF!

Second this.. the bog standard VF SV6/SS seats are sheeit - went for a 4 + hour drive once in my old VF SS and almost needed to book a chiro at the end of it..

Ford seats have always been more comfy than holden/HSV imo , especially if u are big/tall