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Old 15-12-2008, 08:39 PM   #31
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The RS focus has been front wheel drive the whole time hasn't it.... its what makes it the car it is... sure enough whacking 4wd into it would make it a potential plethora of performance but its about the name and heritage.

Perhaps Ford are going to release a WRC version of the focus and keep the RS aswell....

Are you for real

Maybe you should investigate the RS heritage pre 2002
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Old 15-12-2008, 08:41 PM   #32
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Nah too much effort plus im new to the Focus game, so don't hold too much against my inherent lack of knowledge
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Old 18-12-2008, 04:32 PM   #33
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When I said that FPV should put their badge on it I didn't mean they should remove the RS badge. I meant more that this should be FPV's version of the focus to complement the XR5 and flog the VXR HSV Vauxhall Astra thing. If all they do is swap the Ford badge for an FPV one I'd be happy, as it means Australia will get this car.
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Old 19-12-2008, 06:23 AM   #34
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I can assure you all that front wheel drive doesn't really affect the performance, even in the wet
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Old 19-12-2008, 02:03 PM   #35
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So Christmas came early Matt?
Your text message sounded as though you were wetting yourself with excitment!!!!!!!!!! :1syellow1
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Old 19-12-2008, 02:51 PM   #36
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He said he was "speechless". Maybe that was from the drool exiting his mouth.
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Matt, I'm going to post your comment over at the XR5turbo forum, and send the guys into an all out frenzy! Speculation about the possibility of the RS coming to Australia will go into over-drive!
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Old 20-12-2008, 07:01 PM   #38
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all wheel drive would just raise the costs too much... the RS would lose its heritage then... as a performance car within a normal budget. besides... ford is certain the LSD will work well with the new revoknuckle setup to basically bring torque steer to zero..
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Old 20-12-2008, 10:45 PM   #39
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The RS focus has been front wheel drive the whole time hasn't it.... its what makes it the car it is... sure enough whacking 4wd into it would make it a potential plethora of performance but its about the name and heritage.

Perhaps Ford are going to release a WRC version of the focus and keep the RS aswell....
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Are you for real

Maybe you should investigate the RS heritage pre 2002
Ok with my above mentioned post I have one member quoting that I should look into the RS badging pre 2002..... although I referred to the Focus giving me the impression that the Focus RS has existed before 2002 and they were AWD in drivetrain configuration.

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all wheel drive would just raise the costs too much... the RS would lose its heritage then... as a performance car within a normal budget. besides... ford is certain the LSD will work well with the new revoknuckle setup to basically bring torque steer to zero..
Then a few posts later I have another member talk about the RS stating that having AWD would lose its heritage....

Coming across the creek from High Performance Japanese Imports to a bog standard LT Focus i'm first to admit that I don't have a strong knowledge about Ford Europe's history of the last 20 years besides Sierra Cosworth's, but im at a loss having two completely different statements being made... am I wrong about Focus RS only being FWD or is there another model that has AWD... any help to clear this up would be good thanks.
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Old 20-12-2008, 11:42 PM   #40
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Then a few posts later I have another member talk about the RS stating that having AWD would lose its heritage....
Think they were suggesting that one thing the RS badge stands for uncomprimised performance, at an affordable (to most) price. If AWD meant even better performance, at the same price, they may have done it... but given AWD would have added maybe 200kg, that would have made its performance lineball with the ST/XR5 for handling, and only slightly quicker in a straight line.....

I guess the best opinion will come in S13 of Top Gear when Jeremy will test drive it... we all know what he thought of the Astra VXR.... If its the dogs bollocks, he will say it how it is....
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Old 21-12-2008, 12:15 AM   #41
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I had a Sierra RS Cosworth, and with a car like that, you don't have to prove a thing... ppl assume it's going to whip them. "Cosworth" strikes the fear into any man!!! Beleive me... I have experienced it!!!

I still would have loved Ford Australia to of sent the I6 Turbo to Cosworth...!!!

Can you imagine... "Ford Falcon Cosworth"???

Can you imagine the sales... and I am not talking nationally... I'm talking internationally as well. Cosworth is a world recognised company!!! Ford could do so much if they tried!!!
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Old 21-12-2008, 12:17 AM   #42
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Yeh I have been scouring their website for rebuild kit when the time comes to go turbo... pretty hardware
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Old 21-12-2008, 08:17 AM   #43
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all wheel drive would just raise the costs too much... the RS would lose its heritage then... as a performance car within a normal budget. besides... ford is certain the LSD will work well with the new revoknuckle setup to basically bring torque steer to zero..
oh it works
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Old 21-12-2008, 01:25 PM   #44
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all wheel drive would just raise the costs too much... the RS would lose its heritage then... as a performance car within a normal budget. besides... ford is certain the LSD will work well with the new revoknuckle setup to basically bring torque steer to zero..
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Old 23-12-2008, 11:29 PM   #45
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I'm looking at a future project that will involve a RWD application to a focus a la MK1 and MK2 glory days. Still sussing out a lot of stuff.

BTW the new RS looks great and I'd consider one if ever Ford were to bring it here!!
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Old 23-12-2008, 11:54 PM   #46
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Nice work Sadly, tis hard to get a modern RWD car, but handily...the focus has a full-size trans tunnel, so I think a *proper* drivetrain would go in there pretty easily

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Old 24-12-2008, 12:17 AM   #47
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What a stunning car. Would look sensational parked up beside the RS Escort. That would meake me a man with two RSs...
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Old 24-12-2008, 01:13 PM   #48
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RWD foci have been successfuly done before, MKI that is. I remember seeing a few in the states, some with V6 engines and i also remember some mob over there even offering a kit to fit a 351 V8!

And with the huge popularity of the zetec and duratec engines in lotus 7 style cars, i think the new caterham's use them with a sequetial box and get a 0-100 time around the 3 second mark means that there's bound to be plenty of bits around to mount a gearbox and diff.
The trick to it i reckon would be to keep the independent rear end.
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Old 24-12-2008, 02:20 PM   #49
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Independent rear end wouldn't be too hard, you could modify skyline/silvia bits and incorporate as much of the standard focus gear as possible to keep the geometery correct. Custom uprights would be needed, and a diff cradle of course. Making it happen wouldn't be the hard part, making it happen without killing the boot would be the hard part...

Thinking about it, it'd actually be a lot harder to make a live rear axle fit, you'd need to fabricate pretty much everything.

If you go to the Toymods forums, there's a guy who made a 1UZ fit into an oldschool TA series celica...with the 6 speed and full AWD system out of a GTR. I'll try and find the link, it's just amazing, and he's done it without affecting the factory lines.

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Old 24-12-2008, 02:46 PM   #50
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http://www.toymods.net/forums/showthread.php?t=18227

Found it

You might need to be a member to view it, if anyone's interested I'll post some pics.

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I'm looking at something that will turn heads and do what my old MK2 2 door Escort used to do, smack large cars with big motors and turn heads. Doing this in a Focus requires some thought and planning. All in good time though, and definately in its own thread.

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Old 24-12-2008, 03:03 PM   #52
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A car with a giant wooden spoon on the top?

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