Crock Of Rubbish Smoking Laws

[gozza]

just for interests sake i wonder how much smoke actually dissapates before it reaches high atmosphere levels.....in a sense of changing climate and etc etc.....

basically smokers should have the right to smoke anywhere there not incringing on peoples personal space
that keeps things simple

[XR6-VCT-2000]

Originally Posted by brenx

Car pollution kills less people than smoking does.

And thats why if i sucked on the end of a tailpipe on a car i'de live longer than sucking on a cigarette huh ...lol

[gozza]

yeah but people don't suck on exhausts

did you hear about the boy who tried to blow up a bus

he burnt his lips on the exhuast pipe

[brenx]

Originally Posted by XR6-VCT-2000

And thats why if i sucked on the end of a tailpipe on a car i'de live longer than sucking on a cigarette huh ...lol

Maybe you should go do that

[Hardtopxb]

Originally Posted by gozza

i like your paarrallell between the poison

but if someone said to you heres a metal coffin with wheels and more power than you need to launch a rocket...hop in it and drive it as fast as you can but you may blow up in flames...would you

At least I would have some control over what the coffin did..with smoking you dont.imo..

[XR6-VCT-2000]

yeah i had heard that actually ...lol , good old joke though. ;) ..lol

[gozza]

you can decide how many you smoke?

[gozza]

man did it ever occur that sometimes we must seem like a bunch of hens arguing over whos gonna have the best hay to ИИИИ in?

in the end we are all gonna ИИИИ on somthing

[brenx]

Originally Posted by gozza

basically smokers should have the right to smoke anywhere there not incringing on peoples personal space that keeps things simple

Bingo. That's all the government is making these laws for. You can smoke but you can't in the company of another person (non smoker/public).

It's not a big ask but smokers will get ИИИИty. Eventually smoking laws will kill off smoking fullstop. The government wants smoking banned why? It's because the health system can't afford to keep people alive every time they voluntarily euthanise themselves.

[Neeek]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Just a little curious on this one, but can any proper smoker here say that they really don't want to quit, that they actually enjoy the taste of a ciggy?

I love it. There are side effects that we all know about that I don't love, but I'm still smoking and the reason I'm still smoking is because I enjoy it.

I have quit before (cold turkey method - IMHO the only way) and only started again because of a combination of boredom and the fact that I remembered how much I enjoyed it at that given moment. It was all downhill from there.

But yes, I still love it. But I hate the stigma and the bad stuff that comes with it. Thems the breaks.

[XR6-VCT-2000]

Originally Posted by gozza

man did it ever occur that sometimes we must seem like a bunch of hens arguing over whos gonna have the best hay to ИИИИ in?

in the end we are all gonna ИИИИ on somthing

lmao ...yeah ! ... i started this thread originally just to make a point , i didn't expect it to go this far so fast ! , honestlly i didn't even expect a response for it really , was just saying how i felt about the matter ..lol

[fiery]

Originally Posted by Dave_au

Just a little curious on this one, but can any proper smoker here say that they really don't want to quit, that they actually enjoy the taste of a ciggy?

I crave the taste every single day........ I loved smoking.. totally enjoyed..
Didnt quit because I hated it thats for sure..
did it for other reasons (and no health wasnt actually one of the considerations at the time, but yes I agree I probably am healthier for quitting)

[XR6-VCT-2000]

remember all the smoke brand sponsors years ago in sports / cricket / car racing etc etc ...those were the days ... lol, good combination though huh - sports and smoking ! .lol

[NEG]

The banning of people smoking in their cars might be to stop people throwing their butts out the window and causing fires or just a general mess.

[gozza]

what about all the old porn mag cig adds

with a dude and 3 or 4 chicks all looking happy on a beach with palm trees and big white smiley teeth...and cardigans..and jeans..all with ciggas

[XR6-VCT-2000]

Originally Posted by gozza

what about all the old porn mag cig adds

with a dude and 3 or 4 chicks all looking happy on a beach with palm trees and big white smiley teeth...and cardigans..and jeans..all with ciggas

lol , had to laugh at it .. i'll have to see if i can find an old picture of that and post it on here for old time sake

[42.57lb]

So here's one for all of the dudes that says "yeah?! well cars are giving out pollution, so why don't we ban them as well". When your missus is preggars, and if she's a smoker, why does she stop? (Assuming she stops at all?) Becacuse it ИИИИИИs up the unborn child yeah. Statistics have proven that and for more information see. http://quitsmoking.about.com/b/a/101062.htm

NOW, why then don't they say "gee, you're knocked up, better not walk down the street cause your child will probably die of SIDS" Could it be because the noxious gases (I know they're there) from cars/trucks/whatever aren't drawn directly into the lungs, but dissipate and are less effective? I don't know, you tell me. Alls I know is that when you fill up your car well Optimax it doesn't say "Driving your car may harm your unborn child" Can anyone find statistics regarding that?

Also, I have smoked ciggys and I do understand why people like the tast (smooth kent blue, charcoal filters if you want a change form your winnie blues) but waing up with a mouth tasting like an ashtray really got old fast.

Bottom line it's bad for you and HIGH risk, unlike some other things that havea lower risk (driving a car for instance) Just like other drugs (heroin etc) are HIGHER RISK. If you want that risk then I won't persecute you. But next time I'm pouring your beer, how about blowing your smoke in the other direction?

[gozza]

now don't get angry
it don't apply now becuase of the laws
but pubs are plkaces to drink and smoke
if a bartender doesn't like smoke then he should find a new job

[Hardtopxb]

Originally Posted by gozza

you can decide how many you smoke?

Mate I would say 90% of smokers don't control how many smokes they do.. thier bodies cravings do!!

[42.57lb]

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DN

This is somewhat ironic.

The Marlboro cowboy died of lung cancer at 51.

[BlueRaven]

My god... talk about through the cat amongst the pigeons dipped in bbq sauce!

Everyone has an opinion on this one!

I'd like to have one as well. I think its rediculous that any govt try to ban smoking in cars and peoples homes. Want to stop cigerettes? Stop selling them. That has the counter effect of 5 million ИИИИed off people though.

I'd be interested in seeing this though. At the next Big Day Out, which usually stinks of Bongs anyway, someone lights up a Ciggy "Everyone stop playing!! THAT MAN IS SMOKING!", while the guy that you never saw 3 rows back is enjoying a reefer.

[42.57lb]

Originally Posted by gozza

now don't get angry
it don't apply now becuase of the laws
but pubs are plkaces to drink and smoke
if a bartender doesn't like smoke then he should find a new job

If you don't like not being able to have a smoke while you drink maybe you shouldn't drink.

[XR6-VCT-2000]

Originally Posted by 42.57lb

NOW, why then don't they say "gee, you're knocked up, better not walk down the street cause your child will probably die of SIDS" Could it be because the noxious gases (I know they're there) from cars/trucks/whatever aren't drawn directly into the lungs, but dissipate and are less effective? I don't know, you tell me.

Well that no worse than passive smoke then is it , so whats the difference.

[gozza]

to 42.17lb

yes.....now that laws state we can't....but a matter of fact i don't know what pubs actually do that anway...i don't think ive been to a pub yet that doesn't let people smoke

in your case you would need to find a new job mate....20 smokers in the room....probly wouldn't be there drinking if they couldn't smoke....which means you wouldn't have a job anyway.....im not saying its right....im just saying its the way it is

[XR6-VCT-2000]

Originally Posted by BlueRaven

My god... talk about through the cat amongst the pigeons dipped in bbq sauce!

Everyone has an opinion on this one!

I'd like to have one as well. I think its rediculous that any govt try to ban smoking in cars and peoples homes. Want to stop cigerettes? Stop selling them. That has the counter effect of 5 million ИИИИed off people though.

I'd be interested in seeing this though. At the next Big Day Out, which usually stinks of Bongs anyway, someone lights up a Ciggy "Everyone stop playing!! THAT MAN IS SMOKING!", while the guy that you never saw 3 rows back is enjoying a reefer.

lmao , thats a ripper quote , allthough i gotta admit even i recon a ciggy stinks worse than a reefer ! ..lol , but i still like ciggys

[TheSneakiness]

Originally Posted by gozza

but pubs are plkaces to drink and smoke

Not up here they're not anymore.

Pubs are supposed to be drink ONLY.

FFS.

I'm not going to post in here anymore, because I can see two things happening.

1. I'll say something that will get up someone's nose which would result in 2..

2. Someone/me being banned.

[42.57lb]

Originally Posted by XR6-VCT-2000

Well that no worse than passive smoke then is it , so whats the difference.

GLAD YOU ASKED VCT!!!

When I'm standing in a room, (with a ceiling) where's the smoke going to go? Now, I'm not taking the ИИИИ mate, I'm serious, the smoke just stays and hangs around yeah, rather than going where ever smoke usually goes, that's why they say smoking should be outside right? So smoking outside, I have no problem with, smoking indoors is IMO what the whole passive smoking debate is about. Also, and this is a sincere question, would you WANT your kids to be smokers, know what effects it has. I'm not saying whether you would respect the decision or not, cause I respect your decision to be a smoker, whether I agree with it or not. My question is would you WANT them to smoke?

Just a question, and I don't want this to be inflammetry, but why can't some (NOT ALL) smokers but their butts in the bin? F***, I got so mad the other day when I watched this dude check his butt on the ground, then again am I more of the pussy for not picking it up and throwing it in his face?

I HATE LITTER.

[42.57lb]

Originally Posted by gozza

to 42.17lb

yes.....now that laws state we can't....but a matter of fact i don't know what pubs actually do that anway...i don't think ive been to a pub yet that doesn't let people smoke

in your case you would need to find a new job mate....20 smokers in the room....probly wouldn't be there drinking if they couldn't smoke....which means you wouldn't have a job anyway.....im not saying its right....im just saying its the way it is

Serious question, Are you suggesting that all partons of pubs smoke? And if so are you suggesting that pub culture will die becuase no one is allowed to smoke there (when it happens)???

[gozza]

why do you think man
itr aint rocket science
its easy to flick a butt on the ground than to stubb it out and put it in the bin(which i do 9 time out 10) in the bin that is

[boss-290]

Originally Posted by BJ

Well isn't that simple. Ban cars as well. You smokers real make me laugh, all you think of is me me me well guess what buddy. The sooner smoking is band altogether the better i say. Now if you want to sit in your car and smoke you B.L.O.O.D.Y 30 smoke then you go a head and do that with any luck you will all die from your disgusting habit. I choose not to smoke and i should not have to put up with some inconsiderate p^&k lighting up next to me and expect me to put up with it. Maybe you should think of other people before you light up. I dont under satnd how, when you no what you are doing is going to kill you in the long run.

Bloody Oath!

I think you smokers are feral, I don't know how you can proceed to do such filthy things.

Why should others pay for your bullИИИИИ acts.

GO BUY A NICORETTE