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14-07-2024, 03:03 PM | #91 | |||
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They can certainly offer advice to the people who make it through though, assuming someone wants to actually listen to them The best manager I've ever had wasn't even from the automotive/manufacturing industry, he was a personal trainer managing the head office of a manufacturing company, who was younger than me, he actually listened to what I had to say though. What skills he did have was building soft influence/power and relationship management, he had the guys with the experience behind him and he backed us. Last edited by Franco Cozzo; 14-07-2024 at 03:13 PM. |
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massive exports of coal, iron ore and gas to major partners like Japan, Korea and China Imports of finished goods back from those major trading partners meant that Australia were well in the positive. FTA with Thailand was supposed to provide low cost vehicles…. LOL, WTF happened there? Thinking deeper, those Thai finished goods was a way of eliminating all those pesky unions and businesses that continually looking for tax breaks and offsetting losses against revenue. Clearly, they didn’t care about the loss of business activity here and the impact on whole communities. Everywhere I used to see manufacturing plants, I see warehouses or storage tanks in place of refineries.. Quote:
it’s a constant battle of justifying why they should even exist and all Ford cares about in todays world is selling the most profitable mix of vehicles. So yeah, we are fortunate that buyers are embracing Ranger and Everest in record numbers but yes, the on going disappointment is how Ford fails to leverage low cost production in China to deliver all the other vehicles it should be selling…..It just seems like it’s cheaper and easier to do nothing and take the low hanging fruit… Last edited by jpd80; 14-07-2024 at 03:29 PM. |
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14-07-2024, 03:33 PM | #93 | |||
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Some of it would be driven by ideology but its short sided thats left us in a huge mess. I'm aware Ford Australia doesn't call the shots but they can also kick, scream, jump up and down and have a sook constantly - but they don't. The only time they'd make an effort to fix some of the problems is if Ranger and Everest supply was threatened. |
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At the time, the political narrative switched from supporting a local industry and the business activity and prosperity that brought to “why are we paying multinational companies to make products here” In a few short years, the conservatives managed to kill a lot of Australia’s manufacturing base. Equally, the left did virtually nothing to encourage anything back, I guess it was just too late or, they didn’t want to try as it was counter to their green policy…neither side helped (I’m politically agnostic these days, I don’t like any of them, LOL) Quote:
The truth is that the vehicles FOA desire were cleverly put just out of reach by being only developed in LHD, so RHD isn’t as an easy factory plug and play without $200-$250 million on top Ranger and Everest are proven profit earners, so money to fix problems can be more easily justified. I wouldn’t argue against that but I agree that FOA needs to keep trying until corporate ears open. Since Ford regrouped its business as Ford Blue, Model E and Ford Pro, we no longer see regions, everything is neatly obscured away from sight so we can’t see location profits and losses. It’s a good hunch that Ranger/Everest sales are stand outs in our region and are being noticed. Last edited by jpd80; Yesterday at 04:24 PM. |
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If only business - politics - throw in the kitchen sink is as easy as Franco sees it.
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Its not easy, but I'm pretty good at seeing when people don't even bother trying, it always begins with musical CEOs because when the going gets tough, they bail. |
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When a global company there is always musical chairs though.
I think there was quite a few triers in that bundle. Hubert French (US) 1925-1950 Charles Smith (UK/Canada) 1950-1959 John McIntyre (Canada) 1959-1963 Wallace Booth (US) 1963-1967 Bill Bourke (US) 1967-1970 Sir Brian Inglis (Aus) 1970-1981 Bill Dix (Aus) 1981-1990 Jac Nasser (Aus) 1990-1992 John Ogden (US) 1993-1995 David Morgan (Aus) 1995-1999 Geoff Polites (Aus) 1999-2005 Tom Gorman (US) 2005-2008 Bill Osborne (US) 2008 Marin Burela (Aus) 2008-2010 Bob Graziano (US) 2010-2015 Graeme Whickman (UK) 2015-2018 Kay Hart (NZ) 2018-2020 Andrew Birkic (Aust) 2020- Forget the heydays of great volumes but damn hard pushing the barrow to your principles when the business model is sinking due to so so many factors in and out of your hands. Putting aside "range" and all the other points mentioned by jpd and others if I was the investor like FUSA that ROI would have been bleak and obviously they couldn't find ways to counter without more investment, the wage bill alone I'd say we probably had some of the most well payed QC and line workers in the world...... I hear you what could have been, why could others Import and out to market more reasonable price compared to say a Mondeo/Focus and other new models. Post Polities it was pretty much the horse had bolted no return. Anyway water under the bridge mate, your no thailand buyer so no matter.
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why I said post Politis they were just muppets sadly it was all too late during his tenure.
He fought a great fight but up a creek without a paddle, IF only he was in CEO position long before '99. Jac could have done something for Oz but he wanted global and only worried bout himself. Christ I went to the Melb unveiling of FGX and listenning to Graziano made me sic. I've met Whickman a number of times good bloke actually but he only did what had to do like most do in a sunk ship.
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With respect, that’s Ford’s business even if the end result is completely wrong, that’s decided by the board. Quote:
we may be getting a reworked next Gen Ecosport…..God help us… Quote:
a manufacturer like Ford, do less than the minimum because it’s cheaper for them to not compete in our market when so much is possible….and that’s what happens when driven by accountants. Edit, I forgot, Farley ripped $11 billion out of ICE production plans to fund his BEV dream all with the approval of Bill Ford, no wonder ther isn’t money to do even the most basic vehicles for our market… Last edited by jpd80; Yesterday at 07:12 PM. |
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Puma is still getting built in Romania. They have only recently introduced a face lift model.
Fiesta recently discontinued. Focus stops in 2025 New Puma E Bev and Puma ICE will be built in the same Ford Romania plant. |
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policy where they look after their own markets first and ROW buyers get anything left. By that I mean, Ford is also building a baby BEV Transit on the same platform, so I suspect that much of the production space has been taken by the BEVs with just a few spots for the ICE Puma. Again this sucks and typical of Europe looking after itself and why we need a better supplier. Reports are that an new Ecosport has been approved for production in Valencia,Spain, perhaps that is plan b for our region….Im not thrilled at that prospect, suspect it’s down market.. Last edited by jpd80; Yesterday at 08:31 PM. |
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Ford Ute need to import some fuel efficient vehicles as an offset to the relative gas guzzlers in Ranger Everest Mustang to meet NVES
Mach E isn’t selling. I guess time will reveal their plan or no plan. |
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If you’re going to sell polluting vehicles, then those are the ones to stick with. |
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I didn’t mean anything by that
Every vehicle pollutes, some are just better at hiding it Guys, I’m going to take a little break away from this site Last edited by jpd80; Today at 05:41 PM. |
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