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Old 09-07-2013, 10:17 PM   #61
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I wonder if Ford could do this in two parts..

First, release new look Falcon this year to combat VF and then roll in the tech changes late next year as a series II
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:23 PM   #62
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i have to say that the AU was better than the VT too,
but i'm an australian car fan not a falcon or commodore fan, ford make better cars in my view but i own 2 commodores...why?
because my VX wagon looks better than an AU wagon, and the other one was just that it was a 1 owner car and very good condition.
my daily drive is a ford (fiesta) 10% because its a ford but 90% because i thought it was the best car for the money
there is hype over the VF and most reviews say the falcon is a better performer but feels outdated, i'd take the FG and my plan is to buy one in 2 years time after i pay off the fiesta
ford just need to stop talking about the new 2014 falcon and more about how much better the current FG is....maybe!
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:28 PM   #63
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Now you've really done it, was it uncamoed?
It was completely uncamoed front to back to my pleasant surprise. Surprisingly though, it had FPV badges front and back although the badges are probably irrelevant as they could easily be swapped back to ford badges.

Could hardly believe my luck seeing this. Many people will probably be surprised it isn't an all new platform after seeing how different to the FG it is.
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Old 09-07-2013, 10:42 PM   #64
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It was completely uncamoed front to back to my pleasant surprise. Surprisingly though, it had FPV badges front and back although the badges are probably irrelevant as they could easily be swapped back to ford badges.

Could hardly believe my luck seeing this. Many people will probably be surprised it isn't an all new platform after seeing how different to the FG it is.
Photos or it didn't happened.
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It was completely uncamoed front to back to my pleasant surprise. Surprisingly though, it had FPV badges front and back although the badges are probably irrelevant as they could easily be swapped back to ford badges.

Could hardly believe my luck seeing this. Many people will probably be surprised it isn't an all new platform after seeing how different to the FG it is.
I dont know what you saw but can guarantee it wasnt a new Falcon or GT

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I wonder if Ford could do this in two parts..

First, release new look Falcon this year to combat VF and then roll in the tech changes late next year as a series II
Sounds a bit 'EA'

I wonder how many 'Special Editions' over the next 12 months they can fit in!



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It was completely uncamoed front to back to my pleasant surprise. Surprisingly though, it had FPV badges front and back although the badges are probably irrelevant as they could easily be swapped back to ford badges.

Could hardly believe my luck seeing this. Many people will probably be surprised it isn't an all new platform after seeing how different to the FG it is.
You'll find most people will hardly believe your luck as well....
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Spotted one in Kilsyth this afternoon, grabbed my attention the moment I saw it. Think global Ford look meets modern tough Aussie awesomeness. Easily the best looking Falcon since XW GT.
They havent built mules yet so I'm tipping it was another car.
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Thanks Auslandau and Road_Warrior, I'll take your word for it. Makes me beyond curious to know what it was because it was a stunning looking car.
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Said many times but the FALCON has been the back bone for FORD for so long. The people that are so called ford lovers and say that big deal the falcon is going arent truely ford fans
Disagree.

The Ford lovers will stick with Ford and continue to buy from Ford, with or without the Falcon.

Yes, Falcon have been the backbone for Ford in Australia for a long time, but it isn't anymore. The Ranger has overtaken the Falcon as Ford's best selling model in Australia, and Falcon sales have now paled into insignificance. With Ford making big losses from Australian manufacturing and the ever declining Falcon sales that don't look like picking up anytime in the foreseeable future, Ford made the only logical decision there was - to cease manufacturing in Australia, and to kill off the Falcon.

There is no way that the directors at the Ford Motor Company would have allowed those losses to continue. That would be doing the company and its shareholders a disservice. If One Ford was to continue with the Falcon as an orphan in Australia, it had to make business sense. If Ford Australia were making money as opposed to losing money, things might have been very different.
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They havent built mules yet so I'm tipping it was another car.
An "evaluation vehicle", perhaps it was a new Fusion/Mondeo?
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Old 10-07-2013, 06:09 AM   #71
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An "evaluation vehicle", perhaps it was a new Fusion/Mondeo?
Or a Taurus.

No 2014 Falcons with new sheet metal have been built yet.
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“We are still designing elements of it, details of it. We had a big design review today, actually, on the tail lamp. There were lots of opinions.”
Yeah, I'll bet I know what it was

(With flick of pencil).... Yep, nope, put it back to how it already is.... Thaaats it, see, not so bad is it? Now that will save us a bit!
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I wonder if Ford could do this in two parts..

First, release new look Falcon this year to combat VF and then roll in the tech changes late next year as a series II
No thanks.. Just wait & do it properly..
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Old 10-07-2013, 02:24 PM   #74
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Taurus in camo !!
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No thanks.. Just wait & do it properly..
Properly?
I'm not suggesting they don't and this is no EA....
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Taurus in camo !!
Or that same bloody Taurus SHO engineering evaluation vehicle running around......


D3 Taurus SHO = new FPV F6?
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Old 10-07-2013, 09:33 PM   #77
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After many image searches I'm leaning towards Taurus SHO as the roof line was a significantly longer/flatter looking than the very curved roof line of the up coming Mondeo.

Appologies to all for the false spotting! I just hope the new Falcon has some of the same menace in base model form instead of watering it down and saving ALL the good looks for the premium models.
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After many image searches I'm leaning towards Taurus SHO as the roof line was a significantly longer/flatter looking than the very curved roof line of the up coming Mondeo.

Appologies to all for the false spotting! I just hope the new Falcon has some of the same menace in base model form instead of watering it down and saving ALL the good looks for the premium models.
It's FG base right? I'd be surprised if the doors and roof line change much or at all.
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I agree. He needs to get back out there with his camera and get us some snaps.
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Mustang isn't our heritage and it isn't an Australian icon

The mighty Falcon GT is.

If I want leaf springs and 2 ******* doors , I'll by another ute
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Mustang may have live axle but not leaf springs.
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Next gen Mustang is bringing IRS with alloy control arms anyway, so the Mustang/live axle = crap argument is redundant.
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It's FG base right? I'd be surprised if the doors and roof line change much or at all.
That is why I thought it was the next falcon, the roof line did appear to be very similar to the FG, not like the very rounded roof of the Mondeo. Picture attached is the closest thing I could find to what I saw.
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Next gen Mustang is bringing IRS with alloy control arms anyway, so the Mustang/live axle = crap argument is redundant.
And given that the current mustang only just trailed a m3 around a circuit I don't think the live axle was holding it back in any way other than the whole 'it's got a axle from a horsecart' brigade... And I'd rather have the bulletproof live axle than the licorice based b/f series IRS.
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That is why I thought it was the next falcon, the roof line did appear to be very similar to the FG, not like the very rounded roof of the Mondeo. Picture attached is the closest thing I could find to what I saw.
Umm, that's a Taurus SHO.

This is Fusion/ next gen Mondeo:

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And given that the current mustang only just trailed a m3 around a circuit I don't think the live axle was holding it back in any way other than the whole 'it's got a axle from a horsecart' brigade... And I'd rather have the bulletproof live axle than the licorice based b/f series IRS.
Then you need to watch that video (again?). The Mustang was crab walking to the very edges of the track.
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Umm, that's a Taurus SHO.

This is Fusion/ next gen Mondeo:

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Then you need to watch that video (again?). The Mustang was crab walking to the very edges of the track.
Doesn't matter how it did it, the Stang still took it to the M3. Respect.
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