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05-12-2007, 08:25 PM | #1 | ||
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This is the question that will send a chill through every enthusiasts heart. I'm personaly afraid of the ramafacations and would like to get other peoples opinions on this. It has actually suparised me that no one has brought it up sooner!!!
Has voting Rudd killed off any hopes of their ever being a GTHO or even a T3 AU for that matter?? |
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05-12-2007, 08:28 PM | #2 | ||
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Its going to devastate industry, including the car industry.
Edit: Please don't include the AU T3 and the GTHO in the same sentence. |
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05-12-2007, 08:32 PM | #3 | ||
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The rest of the world gets alone fine with kyoto and Australia will too
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05-12-2007, 08:33 PM | #4 | ||
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Rudds a useless tool. And with the Dancing at his side as environmental minister and some random woman as minister for(?) climate change our car industry might just collapse. And the crap thing is there is no-one famous on our side.
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05-12-2007, 08:35 PM | #5 | |||
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05-12-2007, 08:38 PM | #6 | ||
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Have a look at some of the cars coming out of Europe and the new GT-R from japan. They will shatter anything America and Aus can offer
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05-12-2007, 08:40 PM | #7 | ||
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yes, and our economy will collapse and society will drop into anarchy.
and mel gibson will get the XB out.
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05-12-2007, 08:42 PM | #8 | |||
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05-12-2007, 08:43 PM | #9 | ||
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Well for starters old school muscle cars died when the Euro III compliance came out 3 years ago. The shift from windsor to the boss signified the change.
Secondly, the EU are strong supporters of the Kyoto protocol and they are still able to manufacture awesome V8s There will still be muscle cars e.g. B series GTs, but it won't be old school.
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05-12-2007, 08:51 PM | #10 | ||
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personally i would rather drive a 6cyl falcon and not have to deal with melting polar icecaps and drought at the same time, than drive a big v8 and have to cruise around with my aircon on because of the 45degree days in winter,
Its evolution, in order for the Australian automotive industry to survive it will need to adapt and evolve into the new conditions, you don't need a big capacity car to make big power and at the same time big capacity doesn't have to mean higher emissions, the manufacturers will just have to spend more money on developing an engine that is both powerful and ecconomic, personally i think this would be a great development! |
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05-12-2007, 08:52 PM | #11 | ||
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HAHAHA @ muscle cars 3yrs ago.
muscle cars died with ADR27
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05-12-2007, 08:52 PM | #12 | ||
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The issue for Australia comes from how we produce electricity... coal is a big problem under Kyoto.
The reason we haven't agreed to it up until now is the problems it will cause for us.. Kyoto benefits places like china and India who have booming economy's and populations, but will penalise us... Electricity and fuel prices are tipped to rise as a result of compliance with Kyoto.
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05-12-2007, 08:53 PM | #13 | |||
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05-12-2007, 08:56 PM | #14 | ||
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No...I wouldn't worry about it...Rudd just want's to look like a green boy, the Kyoto Protocol is a load of bull*%$#.
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05-12-2007, 09:02 PM | #15 | |||
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In the case of the enforcement branch, each type of non-compliance requires a specific course of action. For instance, where the enforcement branch has determined that the emissions of a Party have exceeded its assigned amount, it must declare that that Party is in non-compliance and require the Party to make up the difference between its emissions and its assigned amount during the second commitment period, plus an additional deduction of 30%. In addition, it shall require the Party to submit a compliance action plan and suspend the eligibility of the Party to make transfers under emissions trading until the Party is reinstated
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05-12-2007, 09:08 PM | #16 | |||
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And as an aside, the electric hybrid cars create more greenhouse gasses to build than a normal car, so where's the balance? At the moment, there is no balance. Even the scientists are now admitting that the information we have is thrown together by retards. Yes, there is a lot we can do as individuals, but the tiny amount of cars we have in Australia doesn't make a measurable difference. |
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05-12-2007, 09:09 PM | #17 | ||
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Will they put carbon limitations on vehicles depending on their displacement? What will be the big kill joy? You guys with your ADR knowledge trip me out, then again I've never done any crazy aftermarket mods.
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05-12-2007, 09:10 PM | #18 | ||
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Dear Kevin tool Rudd ,cc bob brown nose brown and other greenies buy signing kyoto you have shown your self to be week minded populists who make stupid ill thought out choices for australia,i will be driving my big block that sucks nitro burns green house gas ,leaves a big carbon foot print with much gusto and no regrets,....all this wil mean only one thing for all of us ,the idiots that are now running the contry will tax us to the brink and then tax us some more
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05-12-2007, 09:11 PM | #19 | ||
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Aus allready complies with KYOTO.. was largely a symbolic agreement more than anything else.
Have been thinking that the days of large bore v8s are nearly over for years now.. but holden continues to bring larger engines over.. Maybe fuel hitting a couple of bucks a litre will hurt large bore cars more than kyoto. |
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05-12-2007, 09:17 PM | #20 | ||
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Yeah cov115, you're the real hero.
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05-12-2007, 09:20 PM | #21 | ||
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The Govt relies on us not knowing the real truth...read this:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.../11/warm11.xml CO2 emissions are not as bad as they make it out to be on your nightly news, all this carbon footprint talk is really a push for the "global warming tax" proposed by Mr Gore http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,152801,00.html which is the ultimate goal of the Kyoto agreements...
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05-12-2007, 09:21 PM | #22 | ||
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who cares
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05-12-2007, 09:25 PM | #23 | ||
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I often wonder how the neanderthals melted the polar ice caps. Did they have big V8s or did they just fart a lot.
Climate change is an evolutionary cycle. One thing I do believe the scientists on is that the see level was many metres higher in the recent past. And stop blaming the climate change on drought. Drought has been a world wide misery since day one. Look at the 1930s. The worst drought on recorded history even if it wasn't the longest. Ah yes, I could go on and on. Just enjoy ya bloody cars and squash them ricers. |
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05-12-2007, 09:27 PM | #24 | ||
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you are all going to call me a dinousaur but some of the " global warming" is a natural cycle. i'm not saying there is no contribution from us but it is grossly exagerated. we need some action but the greenies go too far we will still have climate change due to natural cycles and that is unavoidable. we have ice ages and a " greenhouse cycle" sorry to go against all the hype but look at history
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05-12-2007, 09:28 PM | #25 | ||
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already had the notice that light and water going up approx $150/160 a couple of weeks ago.
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05-12-2007, 09:32 PM | #26 | |||
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05-12-2007, 09:33 PM | #27 | |||
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05-12-2007, 09:39 PM | #28 | |||
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The greenies are bought out, they're financed/run by the banks for their goal which is to introduce a "global warming tax"...how is that going to stop or even slow down global warming??...it's just another scam.
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05-12-2007, 09:41 PM | #29 | |||
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I also know that in some countries the cost of your rego increases as the capacity of your engine increases.
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05-12-2007, 09:42 PM | #30 | ||
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M.. your starting to sound like Mel Gibson there mate!! :-)
spose they're hiding the UFOs away as well! |
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