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Old 30-10-2006, 01:35 AM   #1
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how good are wolfmother? they are the best current aussie rock band out at the moment, NO the best in the world if you ask me, these guys are gonna be the band u tell u kids about one day (for people my age anyway) they are becoming the accadacca/gunners of our age i reckon.

how were they at the arias! getting ****ed on stage! thats what rock and rolls all about...

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Good to see someone NOT bagging them for once.

Too many 'non-conformist' kids are bagging the band out as being rip offs of sab/zep. Sure, they sound like them in ways.. But they haven't blatently ripped off stuff like some other bands *cough*jet*cough*, lol. And i'd rather hear these guys belting out than some simple greenday/simple plan **** in the 'rock' category these days.

Good on em. I've been a fan since when their EP came out, and the album just continued with some sweet songs.

Them, Karnivool and COG are the best things going around these days in the Aussie see IMO.
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Good to see someone NOT bagging them for once.

Too many 'non-conformist' kids are bagging the band out as being rip offs of sab/zep. Sure, they sound like them in ways.. But they haven't blatently ripped off stuff like some other bands *cough*jet*cough*, lol. And i'd rather hear these guys belting out than some simple greenday/simple plan **** in the 'rock' category these days.

Good on em. I've been a fan since when their EP came out, and the album just continued with some sweet songs.

Them, Karnivool and COG are the best things going around these days in the Aussie see IMO.
well here i am to ruin the thread.

i CANNOT believe the success that Wolfmother is having?! if i was John Bonham and Jimmy Page (Led Zep) i'd be considering re-releasing songs/albums/box sets to cash in on all these kids buying this crap.

Led Zep are one of my all time favourite bands, and even I have made the mistake of calling a wolfmother song Led Zep, and vice versa. and it annoys me. i had one kid at McDonalds where i work, tell me that "Led Zeppelin are just a rip off of Wolfmother"

i have little respect for these 70's rock rip-off bands. watch Rage at like 1am, every single video clip is of some band doing this same thing. doing this loose washed up 70's rocker stuff. and it frustrates the hell out of me. i'll try as hard as i can to do something different to break into the market, but at the end of the day, all i need to do is take some AC/DC, Led Zep, Deep Purple, a few other bands, throw it all together and mix up some riffs, and voila, ill be in the charts. its BS.

i cold go on longer, but i have work to do :


in reference to the Karnivool and COG commnets. Karnivool are pretty cool. COG on the other hand, when i saw em a couple of weeks ago, i couldnt tell when they stopped playing Tool on the PA and COG had started. granted that, they arnt bad. just not as Original as i would like.

Sunk Loto, are an awesome aussie (hardcore) band. and have gotten some decent success overseas. much better than all the bands above, in terms of musicanship and live show IMO.



BUT at the end of the day, each to their own.

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well here i am to ruin the thread.

i CANNOT believe the success that Wolfmother is having?! if i was John Bonham and Jimmy Page (Led Zep) i'd be considering re-releasing songs/albums/box sets to cash in on all these kids buying this crap.

Led Zep are one of my all time favourite bands, and even I have made the mistake of calling a wolfmother song Led Zep, and vice versa. and it annoys me. i had one kid at McDonalds where i work, tell me that "Led Zeppelin are just a rip off of Wolfmother"

i have little respect for these 70's rock rip-off bands. watch Rage at like 1am, every single video clip is of some band doing this same thing. doing this loose washed up 70's rocker stuff. and it frustrates the hell out of me. i'll try as hard as i can to do something different to break into the market, but at the end of the day, all i need to do is take some AC/DC, Led Zep, Deep Purple, a few other bands, throw it all together and mix up some riffs, and voila, ill be in the charts. its BS.

i cold go on longer, but i have work to do :


in reference to the Karnivool and COG commnets. Karnivool are pretty cool. COG on the other hand, when i saw em a couple of weeks ago, i couldnt tell when they stopped playing Tool on the PA and COG had started. granted that, they arnt bad. just not as Original as i would like.

Sunk Loto, are an awesome aussie (hardcore) band. and have gotten some decent success overseas. much better than all the bands above, in terms of musicanship and live show IMO.



BUT at the end of the day, each to their own.

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well here i am to ruin the thread.

i CANNOT believe the success that Wolfmother is having?! if i was John Bonham and Jimmy Page (Led Zep) i'd be considering re-releasing songs/albums/box sets to cash in on all these kids buying this crap.

Led Zep are one of my all time favourite bands, and even I have made the mistake of calling a wolfmother song Led Zep, and vice versa. and it annoys me. i had one kid at McDonalds where i work, tell me that "Led Zeppelin are just a rip off of Wolfmother"

i have little respect for these 70's rock rip-off bands. watch Rage at like 1am, every single video clip is of some band doing this same thing. doing this loose washed up 70's rocker stuff. and it frustrates the hell out of me. i'll try as hard as i can to do something different to break into the market, but at the end of the day, all i need to do is take some AC/DC, Led Zep, Deep Purple, a few other bands, throw it all together and mix up some riffs, and voila, ill be in the charts. its BS.

i cold go on longer, but i have work to do :


in reference to the Karnivool and COG commnets. Karnivool are pretty cool. COG on the other hand, when i saw em a couple of weeks ago, i couldnt tell when they stopped playing Tool on the PA and COG had started. granted that, they arnt bad. just not as Original as i would like.

Sunk Loto, are an awesome aussie (hardcore) band. and have gotten some decent success overseas. much better than all the bands above, in terms of musicanship and live show IMO.



BUT at the end of the day, each to their own.

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Yeah, but where do you think those 70's bands got their sound from? Even The Beatles ripped their riffs from classic composers. It's all about re-inventing mate. That Sarah song by Eskimo Joe is a complete rip of the never ending story.. Oh yeah by End of Fashion was a rip of the Pixies.. Speaking of the Pixies, where do you think the White Stripes got the riff for 7 Nation Army? It's a COMPLETE rip off of a Pixies track.

The thing is, people can't just go out and see Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath live anymore, and if they could do that, they'd be paying an absolute fortune these days to see a bunch of washed up old rockers who should just give it up (Rolling Stones anyone? As a fan of them, i've being embarrased by some of their later shows). It's a chance for people who love that era of music to keep living it in a live and 'new' way.

A lot of kids didn't get to grow up with Zep, Sabbath, Deep Purple etc playing on the radio, and now's their chance to experience some of that. I'd much rather go and see Wolfmother, in an energetic live set, than listen to House of the Holy for the 1000th time in my bedroom again.

Sunk Lotto used to be good.. But IMO Karnivool are MUCH better musicians making better/more original music. And COG have the biggest sound i've EVER heard from a 3 piece act live. I don't think they're that similar to TOOL, sure, you can hear a lot of the influence (tool are one of my favourite bands..), but the vocals are distinct.. and hey. I'd much rather pay $15 bucks and go see COG a few times, than $100 or whatever to be stuck at a concert surounded by typical 'Tool - non conformist, i'm different from everyone but doing the same thing as Maynard and everyone else at this damn show' type people.

Meh.

And, and PS. My mate is old friends with Chris (bass/keys) from Wolfmother, and they never set out to be the next big thing, or some rip off 70's band. They were just playing the music THEY loved and happened to get famous from it. People should just enjoy the music they love to play and be thankful someone has good taste in music these days (much rather kids listening to wolfmother than 'fiddy' cent etc).
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Yeah, but where do you think those 70's bands got their sound from? Even The Beatles ripped their riffs from classic composers. It's all about re-inventing mate. That Sarah song by Eskimo Joe is a complete rip of the never ending story.. Oh yeah by End of Fashion was a rip of the Pixies.. Speaking of the Pixies, where do you think the White Stripes got the riff for 7 Nation Army? It's a COMPLETE rip off of a Pixies track.

The thing is, people can't just go out and see Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath live anymore, and if they could do that, they'd be paying an absolute fortune these days to see a bunch of washed up old rockers who should just give it up (Rolling Stones anyone? As a fan of them, i've being embarrased by some of their later shows). It's a chance for people who love that era of music to keep living it in a live and 'new' way.

A lot of kids didn't get to grow up with Zep, Sabbath, Deep Purple etc playing on the radio, and now's their chance to experience some of that. I'd much rather go and see Wolfmother, in an energetic live set, than listen to House of the Holy for the 1000th time in my bedroom again.

Sunk Lotto used to be good.. But IMO Karnivool are MUCH better musicians making better/more original music. And COG have the biggest sound i've EVER heard from a 3 piece act live. I don't think they're that similar to TOOL, sure, you can hear a lot of the influence (tool are one of my favourite bands..), but the vocals are distinct.. and hey. I'd much rather pay $15 bucks and go see COG a few times, than $100 or whatever to be stuck at a concert surounded by typical 'Tool - non conformist, i'm different from everyone but doing the same thing as Maynard and everyone else at this damn show' type people.

Meh.

And, and PS. My mate is old friends with Chris (bass/keys) from Wolfmother, and they never set out to be the next big thing, or some rip off 70's band. They were just playing the music THEY loved and happened to get famous from it. People should just enjoy the music they love to play and be thankful someone has good taste in music these days (much rather kids listening to wolfmother than 'fiddy' cent etc).
I totally agree.

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Yeah, but where do you think those 70's bands got their sound from? Even The Beatles ripped their riffs from classic composers. It's all about re-inventing mate. That Sarah song by Eskimo Joe is a complete rip of the never ending story.. Oh yeah by End of Fashion was a rip of the Pixies.. Speaking of the Pixies, where do you think the White Stripes got the riff for 7 Nation Army? It's a COMPLETE rip off of a Pixies track.

The thing is, people can't just go out and see Led Zeppelin or Black Sabbath live anymore, and if they could do that, they'd be paying an absolute fortune these days to see a bunch of washed up old rockers who should just give it up (Rolling Stones anyone? As a fan of them, i've being embarrased by some of their later shows). It's a chance for people who love that era of music to keep living it in a live and 'new' way.

A lot of kids didn't get to grow up with Zep, Sabbath, Deep Purple etc playing on the radio, and now's their chance to experience some of that. I'd much rather go and see Wolfmother, in an energetic live set, than listen to House of the Holy for the 1000th time in my bedroom again.

Sunk Lotto used to be good.. But IMO Karnivool are MUCH better musicians making better/more original music. And COG have the biggest sound i've EVER heard from a 3 piece act live. I don't think they're that similar to TOOL, sure, you can hear a lot of the influence (tool are one of my favourite bands..), but the vocals are distinct.. and hey. I'd much rather pay $15 bucks and go see COG a few times, than $100 or whatever to be stuck at a concert surounded by typical 'Tool - non conformist, i'm different from everyone but doing the same thing as Maynard and everyone else at this damn show' type people.

Meh.

And, and PS. My mate is old friends with Chris (bass/keys) from Wolfmother, and they never set out to be the next big thing, or some rip off 70's band. They were just playing the music THEY loved and happened to get famous from it. People should just enjoy the music they love to play and be thankful someone has good taste in music these days (much rather kids listening to wolfmother than 'fiddy' cent etc).
Hmm interesting debate/conversation.

Well-said popinfresh. Pixies are one of my favourite bands and I only got in the last couple of years (they were before my time or when I was too young :P) and same goes for White Stripes, they rock!!

I personally quite like Wolfmother, although I've only heard their current album and nothing else of their's. I haven't seen them live either, so my judgement only goes as far as that.

I'm also a big fan of The Living End (self-titled album; it's one of my favourites) but find they're new stuff just doesn't cut it. Same goes for The Offspring; after Smash it was fairly downhill. But I guess that happens to a lot of artists that make it big these days and get carried away with the fame and money.

On another note it's good to see enthusiasm for Australian music/artists. If you step away from the rock scene, there are brilliant artists doing some awesome stuff in other genres. Most-notably, if you like drum n bass, Pendulum is wicked!! I also saw True Live, live, for a bit at Fed Square and that was really something - double bass, violin, drums and a bit of hip-hop (not the trashy kind).

Obviously in the end it comes down to your personal music taste. I like to think I have a very broad taste and appreciation of music.. Some people won't appreciate anything outside of crumby commerical "RnB" / pop, and some are stuck in the 60s and 70s. I just feel sorry for those missing out on so much!
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Obviously in the end it comes down to your personal music taste. I like to think I have a very broad taste and appreciation of music.. Some people won't appreciate anything outside of crumby commerical "RnB" / pop, and some are stuck in the 60s and 70s. I just feel sorry for those missing out on so much!
Yup!

PS. True Live are ferkin sweet! Specially live.. I'd never seen something like that before. So cool to see classical intruments being mixed with modern styles and hip hop in a real setting (not backing/synths like most of it).
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i CANNOT believe the success that Wolfmother is having?! if i was John Bonham and Jimmy Page (Led Zep) i'd be considering re-releasing songs/albums/box sets to cash in on all these kids buying this crap.
If I was John Bonham I'd be considering giving up the grog.

I'm stuck in the 70's and love every second of it. Excuse me while I change the LP.
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Absolutely priceless call there! :


Having grown up with my old man playing the likes of Hendrix and Zeppelin when he wanted to listen to what he thought was great music, and having grown up playing guitar all my life I find it easy to appreciate good music when I hear it.

The problem these days is the lack of effort, feeling, emotion and so forth that seems to be put into music. When you listen to tracks like Stairways, Dazed & Confused and event something like Heart breaker, you can feel the effort and feeling that each member of Zep put into their music... What frustrates me these days is that it doesn't seem to happen quite as often...

Take for instance, Pete Murray. Great song writer, his songs are good and I enjoy listening to the two albums he has produced, but not one of his songs has captured me in any way for raw emotion that he has put into his music, and the lack of experiemental guitar work or solos is kinda upsetting also...

Having played guitar for more of my life than not, I look to this type of music to enjoy some good talent for listening, but I don't often get to listen to much of it because there isn't usually much played. I can't say I enjoy the likes of Metallica and those heavier bands these days because alot of their guitaring talent is aided by pedals and whatever sound effects they use.

I must say, the biggest disappointment I have faced recently is the release of John Mayer's new album which almost completely rids the thing I loved most about him: his guitaring talent. Perhaps some of you aren't in to his genre of music, but listen to a live version of 'Covered in Rain' to experience just how good of a guitarist he is and listen to some of his music to see how much emotion and feeling he puts into his music.

But that's just what captures me, the amount of feeling put into music, rather than just writing plain basic songs for the commercial market...
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Having played guitar for more of my life than not, I look to this type of music to enjoy some good talent for listening, but I don't often get to listen to much of it because there isn't usually much played. I can't say I enjoy the likes of Metallica and those heavier bands these days because alot of their guitaring talent is aided by pedals and whatever sound effects they use.
I cant say I agree with you there but I know where you are comming from.
Kirk hammit is only useing the same things that paige and hendrix used,distortion/gain, reverb/delay and a wa wa pedal so I wouldn't exactly call it aided. You still have to actually play the guitar you still have to put you're feeling into the instrument . True, distortion can let you get away with some things but it makes other things worse. I dont know how long half of you're life is but I have been playing the guitar for 27 years . I play metallica songs in my band and all I use is a valve pre amp for distortion and a graphic eq to take the edges off. None of these things I would call effects I just call them my guitar amp.
I understand that you dont like to listen to heavy bands and that is fine but I would not dismiss them as guitar players just because they use a whole pile of distortion. I think you might be surprised at how hard some of that stuff is to play. Why dont you learn a kirk hammit solo and see how easy it is, it's not all smoke and mirrors.
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Better than Jet (although that isn't hard), not as good as The Living End though.
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Hmm, not sure where that band is trying to go.. It's a shame their shows are ruined by teeny boppers nowadays though.
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I don't want to hijack the thread....so I will say that a few of Wolfmother's songs aren't particularly exciting - Joker and the Thief is pretty boring, but I do like Woman and their first single.

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I do know what you mean. I love the way they play their music, but the teenys are a bad influence.

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But The Living End aren't consistent. Some songs are great...others are crap.
Again, I know what you mean. I do like plenty of the songs on their new album, and I liked plenty on their previous albums, but in terms of all around listen-ability the self-titled one is still their best, IMO.

They really need air-time though, they can't seem to get on mainstream radio enough.
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I do know what you mean. I love the way they play their music, but the teenys are a bad influence.
Heh, last good show I probably saw was Living End and Dallas Crane at the Palace (it was starting to get bad before that though).. After that and the new album release, I can't stand seeing them live at times. And they WERE my favourite live act.
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Better than Jet (although that isn't hard), not as good as The Living End though.
Was thinking the same thing.
But The Living End aren't consistent. Some songs are great...others are crap.

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Hmm, not sure where that band is trying to go.. It's a shame their shows are ruined by teeny boppers nowadays though.
Just like The Offspring. They were once good, then they conformed and became totally scheisenhause! Their first album was legendary and from there they went down hill, with Ixnay being the last album that I'll bother with.

Oh, and Stephanie McIntosh should die.
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i reckon every song on the album is great
and they have there own sound, they seem to take the guitar to unknown places
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Their sound is not totally their own. Don't get me wrong, they are excellent. But their style is pure 70's. Take the time and listen to Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow, Deep Purple and some Uriah Heep. You'll see where they got inspired. I have the Wolfmother cd, and have for quite a while, as I like their "Old School" sound. :
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and they have there own sound, they seem to take the guitar to unknown places
Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing live at Montserrat.. 10~minutes, probably 7 minutes worth is Mark Knopfler going nuts on his Stratocaster

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Acker Bilk "Stranger on the Shore" now THATS music.
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Old 30-10-2006, 09:12 PM   #24
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Acker Bilk "Stranger on the Shore" now THATS music.
lol... i got tormented with that fella's music in the car on family trips as a wee tacker, along with Richard Clayderman, Julie Anthony and assorted other old-fart songs

As for Wolfmother, I despised them initially but their album is pretty good. Sure I rate Led Zepp, Deep Purple and Sabbath as 3 of my fave bands but whats wrong with playing a style you're influenced by? Plenty of bands now have been influenced by earlier bands who pioneered their genre and make a living out of it for people to listen to. I think that's part the reason what made the early bands so good, they actually defined the style of music as it hadnt been done yet.

There wouldnt be many bands of today that could claim to have a style they have defined as much as the older ones, as so many styles have been crossed and altered

Sure beats listening to the mainstream teeny bop and r & b crap that gets played these days
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Old 31-10-2006, 08:19 AM   #25
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Acker Bilk "Stranger on the Shore" now THATS music.
Very smooth...... Really like it.

Have heard a little bit of his other stuff, At the movies and the Lennon McCartney stuff.
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Old 30-10-2006, 04:24 PM   #26
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Dire Straits - Sultans of Swing live at Montserrat.. 10~minutes, probably 7 minutes worth is Mark Knopfler going nuts on his Stratocaster

EDIT: Actually its from the Alchemy albulm I think
^^^Agreed.
Truely one of the great guitarists of all time.
As for Wolfmother... Don't really have an opinion, as I haven't heard much of their music.

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Old 30-10-2006, 08:20 AM   #27
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YES!!!.....ive been on to them for ages now(well over a year), i still got their first EP's....although of late that andrew has turned into a bit of a ****a........

i watched a interveiw with the bass player from jet once and he was talkin about how they stay up all night and get drunk for free and take heaps of 'cheap' speed........:
thats the life aye, smashed out of it, and no idea where you are or the time.....
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Old 30-10-2006, 08:32 AM   #28
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Wolfmother are great. Yes, they do have influences from LZ & DP but they have added their own fresh sound to it. They're very good live too, I say them at the BDO last year and they blew me away.
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Old 30-10-2006, 08:47 AM   #29
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how good are wolfmother? they are the best current Aussie rock band out at the moment, NO the best in the world if you ask me, these guys are gonna be the band u tell u kids about one day (for people my age anyway) they are becoming the accadacca/gunners of our age i reckon.

how were they at the arias! getting ****ed on stage! that's what rock and rolls all about...
Your kidding right. They would have to be the worst bloody band i have ever heard. The lead singer has now power in his voice, heaven forbid he should open his mouth when he sings, the drummer is all over the place and as for the keyboard player well i guess you can see what i think of them, And as for the music, led zep, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath were doing that years ago and with a lot more passion than they will ever have. bj
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Old 30-10-2006, 12:30 PM   #30
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Your kidding right. They would have to be the worst bloody band i have ever heard. The lead singer has now power in his voice, heaven forbid he should open his mouth when he sings, the drummer is all over the place and as for the keyboard player well i guess you can see what i think of them, And as for the music, led zep, Deep Purple and Black Sabbath were doing that years ago and with a lot more passion than they will ever have. bj
YOUR kidding right???

Worst band you have ever heard? Jeezuz.....I guess the 3 ARIAS they won don't mean anything then eh...aside from that...well I guess your taste in music is different from mine...

They are a quality band...but not as good as The Living End? hahaha what a joke!

And there was I thinking most of the people on here had a good ear for good quality modern music...
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