13 second AU six possibilties.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 05:44 PM

I dont know. I am pretty over the power mods at the moment. just cant help but think that we should be running 13's in normally aspirated form.
We have got the engine capacity,weve got the determination so does anyone have the desire to build and to run a 13 second daily driven au ford ?

onfire · 26-07-2006, 05:48 PM

Yeah wouldnt say No to a 13sec 6 cylinder. But I dont really have the desire to spend thousands.

Qwikcorty · 26-07-2006, 05:52 PM

i think your pushing something uphill to have a daily driver AU 6 than can reel off 13's . Much easier and could be cheaper to bolt in a turbo kit. AND faster

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EFFalcon · 26-07-2006, 05:50 PM

i guess the main thing is that all it is is bragging rights, for the same money you'd most likely have a V8 running even quicker.

Ruger · 26-07-2006, 05:52 PM

v8s are everywhere but how often do you see really tough n/a 6's?

turbo 6's and eights are an everyday sight :\ nothing special about that.

EFFalcon · 26-07-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

v8s are everywhere but how often do you see really tough n/a 6's?

turbo 6's and eights are an everyday sight :\ nothing special about that.

thats why i said its only bragging rights.
unfortunately for most people, they want bang for buck.
i'm all for people doing amazing things from a 6 cylinder, but unless they've got something to prove, most people will go the cheaper option to get the power they want.

GlennBA · 27-07-2006, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruger

turbo 6's and eights are an everyday sight :\ nothing special about that.

yes, i've seen at least 10 turbo au's today.....

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dansedgli · 26-07-2006, 05:53 PM

Nothing special about spending thousands just to get hosed by a similar priced turbo or V8.

LG · 26-07-2006, 06:25 PM

I wanna get close to a 13. Now that my cars a manual & lighter than a fairmont or a wagon. With a cam & chip & few other bits and pieces, the manual owners should get close.

Casper · 26-07-2006, 06:28 PM

I have no doubt it will happen.. :eclipsee_

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 06:52 PM

I dont think it is bragging rights at all. It is a sense of achievement and knowing that you were right in your selections.

How much I Would love to see any one of us rattle off consistent 13's is not funny. I just dont think anyone has seriously dared to do it. The only hard thing is someone getting the combo right. Us auto blokes have reached for our hi stall torque converters and I think its time to reach for some more power!!

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 07:05 PM

Hamo and tripower are only .3 off 13 seconds.

Rob · 26-07-2006, 07:59 PM

I'd love to see an AU six run a 13 1/4... I actually sold my AU to my parents, they realised it was too good to let go, 50,000~ km's, perfect condition. If I ever decide to retire the GTS, I'd probably get back into the AU! If that was the case....... 13's...

jonbays · 26-07-2006, 08:18 PM

I think it can be done and will when AU's are cheap enough to run as a drag car weekend car only so you could mod it and lightweight it to the point of it not really being anywhere near a daily driver. the engine will give enough power at the rear wheels for sure if you can get the weight down to 1350kg from 1600 you would be laughing.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 08:24 PM

I think the cam and tuning is the key.

CAMS290 · 26-07-2006, 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

I think the cam and tuning is the key.

Weight reduction is a huge gain, light weight drag wheels save rotating mass, suspension set up and the list goes on.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 08:41 PM

True true.It all helps but am thinking around 160 to 190 rwkws and a nice power curve is what we need. I think if we put the work in that we can do it.

MRJUCY · 26-07-2006, 08:44 PM

Plenty of 6s using old school technology have done it so their is no reason you boys couldn't if you pulled your fingers out.

ratter · 26-07-2006, 08:47 PM

If your car will run 93 mph + over the 1/4 it should be capable of running in the 13's, it just needs the correct combo of convertor, gears, tyres and suspension to do it.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ratter

If your car will run 93 mph + over the 1/4 it should be capable of running in the 13's, it just needs the correct combo of convertor, gears, tyres and suspension to do it.

It is possible..but the power I would like to see is the torquey savage type I have seen from the modern 4.0 litres's more primitive grandfather like the 250 2 v motors.Had to do ab trainning everyday just to reach the radio on that thing!!

mik · 26-07-2006, 08:52 PM

i reckon more compression wouldnt hurt, the fuel is good enough to support it

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 08:59 PM

I really dont like it that the new 6.0 commies are quicker. I think we can and should take them.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 09:02 PM

I know that ford destroked the 4.1 to produce this engine to produce more power. ..it should be tearing shreds off the other guys.

Tri Power 289 · 26-07-2006, 09:09 PM

With the amount of development going on at the moment, I'll bet there will be more than one 13 sec N/A AU 6 by the end of the year.

Don't know if i'll be one of them but it will be done.

No reason why it can't be a daily driver either.
I do 100k round trip every day, in the same trim as I ran my 14.38.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 09:17 PM

Tripower..you can do it man.If you really want to. I think your right though. Chris ,G &D ,etc ,even my nuts n bolts approach to modding has created a wealth of information and choices for others to draw on. Wont be long.

The au six is taking its place in the perfromance podiums . As we cain the other guys the word is getting around...beware of the taxis!!LOL

Casper · 26-07-2006, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tri Power 289

With the amount of development going on at the moment, I'll bet there will be more than one 13 sec N/A AU 6 by the end of the year.

Don't know if i'll be one of them but it will be done.

No reason why it can't be a daily driver either.
I do 100k round trip every day, in the same trim as I ran my 14.38.

I agree. I think in 12 months time there will be a number of AU I6's regularly running 13's... then trundling off to do daily driving duties. Certainly expect there will be a few doing it by the end of the year too.

T3man · 26-07-2006, 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by useless

I know that ford destroked the 4.1 to produce this engine to produce more power. ..it should be tearing shreds off the other guys.

Dunno where you got that idea from ... better go check your engine specs again mate.

**Stav** · 26-07-2006, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by T3man

Dunno where you got that idea from ... better go check your engine specs again mate.

Wont need to when we pass you by, pull over and lift the bonett

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T_Terror · 26-07-2006, 10:04 PM

The 4.0L is a great motor, with a manual its one of the most fun motors ive driven.

13s shouldnt be too hard.

Just need to crank it up to 200-220rwkw, drag radials, and some 90/10s up front.

At the moment engine power is sitting at around 180rwkw NA. Noone is running big compression and/or 6throttle intake. With those two additions and a suitable cam i rekon a 13 is easily on the cards.

And get out of the BAs theyre too fat. EAs are pretty light, theyd probably be the best platform for a 13 attempt.

JC · 26-07-2006, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by T_Terror

The 4.0L is a great motor, with a manual its one of the most fun motors ive driven.

13s shouldnt be too hard.

Just need to crank it up to 200-220rwkw, drag radials, and some 90/10s up front.

At the moment engine power is sitting at around 180rwkw NA. Noone is running big compression and/or 6throttle intake. With those two additions and a suitable cam i rekon a 13 is easily on the cards.

And get out of the BAs theyre too fat. EAs are pretty light, theyd probably be the best platform for a 13 attempt.

I think you'll find the stock head won't support the flow required. If you port it properly, you would need a fairly lumpy stick to get the air through quickly, with bigger valves etc, and it will actually lose it's drivability. As suggested above, it would be confined to weekend warrior duties for most of us (especially most of us older, family types).

I am quite happy with my 15(???) second wagon (until I get a BluePower tune, then it will be a faster 15 second wagon). I still scare a few V8s and turbos. I don't think anyone gives the wagon the credit it's due - it takes off quick enough to beat most to the legal limit, or at least to scare them into moving off quicker!