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09-06-2006, 10:42 PM | #1 | ||
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Just wondering if anyone else is having similar issues.
I have had my LS Zetec for 6 months now and have had a problem where it has failed to start occasionally. I have taken it back to the dealer 4 times now and every time they have told me that they can't find anything wrong. This is very frustrating. I am not too sure where i stand at the moment as i have paid for a car that is letting me down and i can not fully enjoy it. The second problem i have is a long creak/squeak sound coming from the rear (near wheels/suspension) which seems to happen when taking off after stopping. Any ideas? |
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09-06-2006, 11:23 PM | #2 | ||
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We had the same problem on both models failing to start, 2003 sedan CL and 2005 hatch CL.
It only does it now and then for some reason and goes away for ages. Come back the other morning again, finally turned over after a few times. Ford couldn't find the problem if it was right in front of them.
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09-06-2006, 11:39 PM | #3 | ||
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I think there have been other posts on this problem. Do a forum search to find the threads
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10-06-2006, 03:39 AM | #4 | |||
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I have a pretty annoying rattle coming from front driver side in the suspension area. Now the noise only occurs at low speeds over undulating surfaces. Doesn't happen any other time. Its not THAT bad but. A guy from Ford came for a short ride so I could show him. I explained to the service blokes that its something to do with the suspension. Next day brought it in for them to checkout. When I picked it up a bloke told me that they couldn't find the source of the rattle. He asked me ... if I'm using premium fuel. I told him I always use Optimax. He told me that could be causing the rattle noise. Need I say any more? 15k service is due in 4ks. I will have them give it another go. |
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10-06-2006, 09:29 AM | #5 | |||
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You could be using cooking oil and it wouldn't be doing that...TeeHee Have a look where the noise is coming from, there might be a bolt not tight enough or missing but, I don't think so.
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10-06-2006, 09:46 AM | #6 | |||
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They also had another LS zetec in there yesterday that had the "shudder when almost at a complete stop whilst braking" problem, which they had 2 people working on to try and figure it out |
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10-06-2006, 12:53 AM | #7 | ||
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Yep - has been mentioned before. Start issues happening on a hill? or slight gradient? Apparently it has something to do with the Fuel Pump...
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10-06-2006, 09:09 AM | #8 | |||
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Most of the time it happens in the morning.
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10-06-2006, 11:14 AM | #9 | ||
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What usually happens if these issues aren't fixed? Is there some sort of refund policy? Could i take my argument to Ford Australia and get compensated? My biggest fear would be to have the car break down after my 3 year warranty expires.
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10-06-2006, 12:25 PM | #10 | |||
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Have the Zetec reflashed (there is one out now). Also run it on premium if you aren't already. You should find that this will help the starting issues considerably. As for the creak, that's a new one I haven't heard of. On normal unleaded, they do tend to ping on take off however, which can sometimes sound like engine mount creaking.
We've had a few issues now with the Zetec, all sorted but it took a while. Ford agreed to extend our factory warranty for the hassles. Unfortunately some of the earily Focus's are problematic. Shame because generally they are a new car.
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10-06-2006, 01:26 PM | #11 | ||
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hey karl74............if you complain to Ford Australia, let me know what they say. Would be interested to see what they do.
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10-06-2006, 01:29 PM | #12 | |||
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We have a 2005 built CL hatch.....any suggestions?
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10-06-2006, 05:24 PM | #13 | ||||
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10-06-2006, 08:33 PM | #14 | ||
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I have had the computer reflashed and still i have this problem. i will leave my car with the dealer for a week and see if they come up with anything. I wonder if it would have anything to do with the immobiliser?
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11-06-2006, 04:28 PM | #15 | ||
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Where can I get a reflash done in Melbourne?
Can Ford techs tell if it's been done? I always use premium 95 RON with zero problems. |
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13-06-2006, 01:57 PM | #16 | ||
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Take it to a ford service center, and they can tell if you have the latest software just by plugging in thier service computer. The creak is probably just movment in the body work, all cars do it, some worse than others cant do much about it really.
I used to have starting problems but it went away after a software update. As for getting ford to do something for nothing? Good frigging luck. Its not just ford, its every other car company on earth. God help any of you if you buy a lemmon car cos trying to get a new car refunded or replaced (even in the most obvious and legitimate circumstances) is near imposible. |
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13-06-2006, 02:44 PM | #17 | ||
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Well it looks like i might have my problem sorted out. I got a phone call from the service centre this morning to tell that they had found a fault. They ran diagnostics on my fuel pump over night and found that this morning the pressure had dropped by half. a replacement fuel pump is on its way.
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17-06-2006, 08:08 PM | #18 | ||
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Ok now i'm ****ed. The fuel pump was replaced on my car last week. End of problem??? NO!!!! On my way home today my Focus lost power for about 3-5 seconds and then power resumed. Pulled up at the lights, about to take off and it stalled. Tried to start over and over with no success. So i had to have it towed back home (what a sorry sight). Unfortunately i to wait until Monday to have it looked at.. Time to become a Holden man????
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17-06-2006, 08:54 PM | #19 | |||
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just keep chipping away at Ford, they'll get off their asses eventually, but it does sound like you have some sort of fuel delivery problem Uni/. |
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20-06-2006, 05:22 PM | #20 | ||
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How old is your Focus with km?
There could be a number of things wrong with it There seems to be more problems with Ford Focus then windows XP...LOL I would be upset with you if you went over to holden...hahaha
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20-06-2006, 08:22 PM | #21 | ||
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Hey Karl,
Sorry to hear about your dramas, but hang in there mate, it is a beautiful car and it would be a real shame to see you give up on it so soon. But, more importantly, surely you would not end a friendship that goes all the way back to primary school, by getting a holden? : Seriously though, any updates on the Zetec?
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21-06-2006, 09:01 PM | #22 | ||
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Ok....
Clutch pedal fell of today on my 1700Km old Zetec. A n opportunity to examine a $160 option, piece of flimsy pressed alloy glued to rubber pedal.. CHEAP *****.. |
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22-06-2006, 01:18 PM | #23 | ||||
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Having said all this, please understand that I have not seen them in real life, but I have alloy pedal covers on my GT and they are excellent quality.
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22-06-2006, 12:16 AM | #24 | ||
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160?? WTF? I paid "only" 70 for my set.
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22-06-2006, 01:35 PM | #25 | ||
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As for the starting issue, have any of you tried waiting till the little snow ball light ont he dash turns orange, its red when you turn the accessories on and goes to orange after a few seconds. I find if you wait for this that it starts fine, like a Diesel ute when its cold.
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23-06-2006, 08:41 PM | #26 | ||
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Hang on my error that price included gear lever as well.. somthing like that.
The electics cover fell of under the passengers footwell while my boss was in the car... Get a Honda like mine he said. But for the price it drives and goes well so no honda 4 me... Luv my black Zetec even tho it's now done 3200Km - anyone klnow what they do for that 1st service checkover? |
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26-06-2006, 02:43 PM | #27 | ||
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Ok i have got my car back now. This time it was a faulty fuel gauge sender, so i was actually out of fuel when i broke down even though the gauge read 1/4 tank. See how we go now (not holding my breathe though). Any more trouble and Ford Australia will know about it. Would i be asking too much for an XR5 as a replacement?
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26-06-2006, 04:16 PM | #28 | |||
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I know how you feel and I'm not a happy camper with my Ford dealer. I always get a ph call from Ford saying, by our calculations your due for a service or would you like to buy a new car.
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26-06-2006, 10:02 PM | #29 | ||
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Good to hear that you have it sorted for the moment mate. Good luck swapping for an XR5. My XR5 still isn’t even built yet, and it seems it will about 7 weeks in transit (not 3 weeks like the dealer suggested) when it finally gets built. Needless to say I’m gutted, but I figure I’ve waited 6 months already, so another couple won’t kill me.
Enjoy the game tonight mate, it’s gonna be huge!
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03-07-2006, 10:12 AM | #30 | ||
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Well the replacement of the fuel pump and sender guage has not fixed my problem. Last Friday my car started but idoled like a truck. I got a warning on the dash saying "Engine System Fault". Well now is the time Ford Aus stepped in and replaced my car. I have sent them an email and i am waiting their reply. Let you know how i go.
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