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16-05-2006, 12:19 AM | #1 | ||
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Hi Chris,
Firstly, well done with the tune last year in Canberra, it's still going strong - 248.9rwkw and running at 10.5l/100km on the highway. I'm used to the car now and looking for more grunt. I'd thought about a bluepower CAI and 3.7 diff gears - but for the cost I might as well put it towards a blower (once the car is out of warranty!) I've never had anything to do with superchargers, so when you have the time could you give us a general run down on the pro's and con's. What sort of power, torque and cost am I looking at? What's likely to break? Are they a good option for the street? Which set-up do you recommend? I'd imagine my SS CAI and filter would have to go, what about the underdrives? Anyone else with a blown boss I'd welcome your comments also. I'm particularly interested in the lower end of the market. Off topic, but would you consider changing my diff gears on your next Canberra visit? Would 3.7 diff gears be too short for a manual blown street car, if I choose to go down that route? Ta |
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16-05-2006, 12:05 PM | #2 | ||
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Hi mate, Glad to hear the car is behaving as it should.
Manual Blown BA's present themselves with all sorts of problems holding up the drivetrain. Making torque and HP with the blower on the boss isn't the problem, holding the rest of the car can be an issue, particulary with the series 1 5spd and 3.23 rear axle. Even just 3.7's and a decent clutch can see an NA car run hard, whereas big 350plus rwkw grunt will sometimes "upset" the cars road stance on a gearshift, resulting in low et's but huge MPH. Its a dicey one, but either way i would be fitting the gears, as they will make the car more "liveable". Once fitting 3.7's, the new vortech sealed unit CAPA are releasing should be fantastic value for an entry level, 320rwkw XR8 blower. Watch this space for more details, as we will be evaluating them soon. Chris
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18-05-2006, 12:59 PM | #3 | ||
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I too am considering the blower route, even a powedyne should do for me as I don't really need the top end charge just the low down torque.
as mine is auto and 3v it has torque to burn anyway. This should make me not need a hi stall as i will have more torque down low. How does the p/d blower drive on say a stock xr8 ?does it really liven it up down low ? or is it still progessive ? as mine won't be revving past 5500 i want low down power. I think the blower is next on my to do list, seeing as my other blown car just broke the 500 rw kw barrier :
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18-05-2006, 03:14 PM | #4 | |||
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18-05-2006, 05:19 PM | #5 | |||
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I think this is what I am waiting for , if it is what you mentioned on the phone to me a few months back with good lifts in the low and mid range. |
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18-05-2006, 08:46 PM | #8 | ||
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Oooer, these blowers u speak of sound interesting, i will be waiting with eager eyes for this....
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18-05-2006, 11:16 PM | #9 | ||
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Nice, its about time someone reverse mounted one of these in a Falcon. Should get rid of some awkward plumbing...
Who is putting this reverse fit, sealed vortech kit together?
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23-05-2006, 12:00 PM | #10 | ||
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Its a CAPA kit. I should have the first one soon.
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23-05-2006, 06:03 PM | #11 | |||
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23-05-2006, 07:19 PM | #12 | |||
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Sounds like a good thing Chris. C.A.P.A have alot of faith in you, and thats well deserved. So hurry up and crack that Bloody 10...... Bring on Calder. Hurry up Friday. Did you solve that little throttle gremlin? :
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28-05-2006, 03:44 PM | #14 | ||
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ok.. i am putting my name down also for this new capa kit.. well, after i see what Chris an others have to say about it.
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29-05-2006, 01:08 AM | #15 | ||
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im going this option at the moment with a 220 3v moter n 4 spd auto , should be heer in the next 4 weeks , gettin the kit for the american f150 with inter cooler from whipple
http://www.whipplesuperchargers.com/ workin the moter round that n box too but was lucky got all that from a wreck an a few other parts (almost all thats needed )for an implant in to a 77 fairlane get the wreck for $450 from a pickles auction so me budget ain blown yet but the moter will be lol |
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29-05-2006, 08:25 AM | #16 | |||
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29-05-2006, 05:11 PM | #17 | ||
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so are there any off the shelf bolt on style kits available for the 220 3v from the states?
Since the motor is based on what come out of ... i think the F series 4X4's, would there be anything that just bolts up and gives a bit more punch, or would it be better to wait out till the capa kit is finished and tested? p.s : sorry to hi-jack this thread |
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29-05-2006, 07:59 PM | #18 | ||
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i would have fit the f150 whipple to my 3v if only i could get it to fit under the bonnet.
the modular motors are just too damm tall :(
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30-05-2006, 02:54 AM | #19 | ||
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the one ive orderd is the 2.3 ltr with inter cooler kit see how it goes - the 2.3 ltr can handle more rpm and higher psi than the 3.3 ltr acording to whipple
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03-06-2006, 11:03 PM | #20 | ||
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recon is sits real sweet :
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04-06-2006, 03:49 PM | #21 | |||
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04-06-2006, 11:08 AM | #22 | ||
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If only it could be made to fit under the bonnet of a BA I would get one.
oh and a 3V inlet manifold would also be nice.
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04-06-2006, 10:54 PM | #23 | ||
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saturn bud
and it is for a 3 valve whether or not it fits under ba bonet cant tell you but batterns is ment to and this is ment to be same hight better psi and priced cheaper |
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04-06-2006, 10:57 PM | #25 | ||
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saturn bud
and this is for the 3 valve , couldent tell you if it fits under ba bonet but the batter one is ment to and this is ment to be the same hight better psi bad cheaper |
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