Toyota Aurion Revealed

bobski · 09-02-2006, 02:16 PM

http://www.aurionv6.com.au/

Official website.

What do you reckon? Looks a lot like a BA/F Falcon. Especially the lines on the rear quarter panel (Click on Aurion revealed on the navigation bar at the bottom for this view).

I don't reckon its too bad at all. Mind you, this is probably the top of the line model and it is a computer gen by the looks of things. But a nice departure from boring.

Site reckons it'll have 190kw, with a high performance model to come. Hopefully that means supercharged V6 and not the same engine with rice. I don't think a sporty intentioned car with rice but the same engine works anyway. Hopefully they've seen the light.

NC 5ltr · 09-02-2006, 02:25 PM

It looks like it has alot of the new GS lexus in it.

KEV EB XR8 · 09-02-2006, 02:27 PM

Thats certainly one of the best designs by toyota yet, aussie design i think they said.
it has a lot in common with the BA/F but looks kinda different at the rear

Still hasnt said if its a rear or front wheel drive though

I give it a thumbs up for looks.

bobski · 09-02-2006, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by KEV EB XR8

Still hasnt said if its a rear or front wheel drive though

Front wheel drive apparently.

**Polyal** · 09-02-2006, 02:27 PM

Yeah a bit of mazda 6 and VZ even...look ok.

but thats why i woudl never get a lexus..has for to much in common with the toyota varients. (yes I know same company and different drivetrains, but still, not impressed)

merlin · 09-02-2006, 02:32 PM

What I don't get is how did this "change the way we see the Aussie Six"??? I mean they did this big advertising campaign then release a car with the same power as a falcon/commodore....whats the difference we should all be seeing??!!

Psycho Chicken · 09-02-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by merlin

What I don't get is how did this "change the way we see the Aussie Six"??? I mean they did this big advertising campaign then release a car with the same power as a falcon/commodore....whats the difference we should all be seeing??!!

You have to steer a Falc/Commo to change lanes, you just plant your foot down in these things.

Des · 09-02-2006, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Psycho Chicken

You have to steer a Falc/Commo to change lanes, you just plant your foot down in these things.

LMFAO, that's funny....
Looks like a riced up Camry to me. I love the line "brute force wasn't going to do anymore." In other words, less torque, same weight and the usual Toyota "any interior colour you want as long as it's either brown/beige or grey". They might finally put 16 inch wheels on something other than Landcruiser's and Prado's, (sorry Prado has 17's now)....

Aurion = A Lion?
Aurion = Orion?
Aurion = Bad Manga Character?
Aurion = Wild party time at the bowling club! (break out the bridge sets)

Lagom · 09-02-2006, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by merlin

What I don't get is how did this "change the way we see the Aussie Six"??? I mean they did this big advertising campaign then release a car with the same power as a falcon/commodore....whats the difference we should all be seeing??!!

Notice how they write, "over 190kW of power".
I suspect "over" doesn't meant 191kW - it's probably making a little jab at the Falcon (which has a very respectable amount of power).

I'm guessing that they will bring a new level of sophistication and refinement into large cars. BF is pretty good, but wind noise lets the game down and the interior lacks class, especially when you move towards the high end.

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Originally Posted by Falcon Coupe

I like the styling, Toyota claim market research kept going back to power, it should also have gone back to RWD, they still don't get it.

It wouldn't surprise me if their market research said RWD/FWD was no issue.

merlin · 10-02-2006, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Lagom

Notice how they write, "over 190kW of power".
I suspect "over" doesn't meant 191kW - it's probably making a little jab at the Falcon (which has a very respectable amount of power).
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Well if Toyota wants to get smart then the BF really produces 240kw dosn't it

_2: Still don't see how 190kw+ is going to go through the front wheels?

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Originally Posted by Lagom

I'm guessing that they will bring a new level of sophistication and refinement into large cars.

This is where they beat the locals - in terms of reliability and quality. Then again I wonder what price point they are aiming at?

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Originally Posted by Lagom

BF is pretty good, but wind noise lets the game down and the interior lacks class, especially when you move towards the high end.

Personally I love the BA/BF interior, wouldn't really change anything about it. Wind noise - I have never noticed this in any BA I have driven, then again I never get the unending quest to lower NVH - I like noisy performance cars.

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Originally Posted by Lagom

It wouldn't surprise me if their market research said RWD/FWD was no issue.

Same line Mitsubishi have towed for ever, now they are going under...

bobski · 10-02-2006, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by merlin

Personally I love the BA/BF interior, wouldn't really change anything about it. Wind noise - I have never noticed this in any BA I have driven, then again I never get the unending quest to lower NVH - I like noisy performance cars.

Probably cause the BA has some rattles and road roar and the BF doesn't :P

But the point is well made, once your car is as quiet as some of the premium models from other brands, you need to then improve your quality of your other components so they don't stand out in the silence.

I don't mind the BA interior. Some of the plastics are a bit harsh, but until you've sat in a 380, you don't realise how bad it could be

Mark351 · 09-02-2006, 02:34 PM

The guy who designed this was former Ford designer, Nick Hogios, who did the BA XR design.

NC 5ltr · 09-02-2006, 02:39 PM

Come to think of it,it even looks like a new hyundai elantra

henry 351 · 09-02-2006, 02:42 PM

Looks like a BA/Audi morph job. Not keen on it myself.

09-02-2006, 02:51 PM

Very nice ,If only it was RWD ,It would give Ford and Holden a good run for there money ,190Kw Std FWD and the sportivo Has a Super charger on top of that , It's going to have some major Torque steer IMO

I wish they would make it RWD V6 and V8 and enter the V8 supercar race to liven it up.

EF, What else? · 09-02-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Stampy

Very nice ,If only it was RWD ,It would give Ford and Holden a good run for there money ,190Kw Std FWD and the sportivo Has a Super charger on top of that , It's going to have some major Torque steer IMO

I wish they would make it RWD V6 and V8 and enter the V8 supercar race to liven it up.

Yes, if it was RWD and they introduced a V8 model, it wouldnt half shake up the market, and they could make the V8 series interesting

LTDHO · 09-02-2006, 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by EF, What else?

Yes, if it was RWD and they introduced a V8 model, it wouldnt half shake up the market, and they could make the V8 series interesting

Yes they need to.
No they wont.

Toyota can not justify a RWD V8. Although the Lexus motor would be great.

max^power · 09-02-2006, 02:59 PM

it's ok, what about the engine specs? FWD isn't going to win any ford/holden buyers. another 380?

qwigybo · 09-02-2006, 02:59 PM

3.5L dual VVti exceeds over 190kw in standard form... also have a supercharged engine for a future high-end model.
if it wasn't a toyota i' buy one

rst2000 · 09-02-2006, 03:31 PM

computer generated in the motor show guide and it doesn't look to bad...i have just seen a photo in the herald sun of the actual car and it looks pretty ordinary..

chief · 09-02-2006, 03:33 PM

So this VVti (Variable Valve Timing with intelligence) is the same as our VCT. With 190kw that is what our Falcon has, so no difference there, Dual Overhead cam, no difference there. It just seems a bit of a **** to me. By adding the name *intelligence* Toyota is going is completely different direction as the rest of Australia. Maybe Holden but that is about it.

Jeld-Wen Falcon · 09-02-2006, 03:45 PM

At first glance, I thought it was a Falcon X Commodore with a hint of Camry.

M14A-Mclaren · 09-02-2006, 03:55 PM

Looks good, I would have watched the webcast if they didn't waste my bandwidth with some crappy band.

Simmo · 09-02-2006, 04:09 PM

the looks are fantastic, but everything is going to be FWD soon. only the true performance cars will get rwd. making a fwd car is so much easier on the line and car manufacturers are about the dollar signs.

clontarf_x · 09-02-2006, 04:23 PM

If i remmeber correctly VVT-i is NOT the same as VCT, someone explained it somewhere in a thread on these forums, can;t be ИИИИed finding it now

Simmo · 09-02-2006, 04:30 PM

essetially they are the same though arent they? variable valve timing vs. variable cam timing. both are systems where the advance on the cam is alterd to produce a better cam profile at the top end.

EFFalcon · 09-02-2006, 04:32 PM

front looks mean as, rest is a let down.
should keep any family car honest though.. step forward from whats available from toyota!

**Falcon Coupe** · 09-02-2006, 04:45 PM

I like the styling, Toyota claim market research kept going back to power, it should also have gone back to RWD, they still don't get it.

sfr rob · 09-02-2006, 04:49 PM

it does look pretty fresh for a toyota!

only thing that i think lets it down, is the height of the car, the doors are still VERY big by the looks of it, so from the side it will probably still look like a camry, which will mean any wheels smaller than 19 inches will look terrible!

ltd · 09-02-2006, 05:16 PM

Yeah, I remember they even made the Camry sportivo look hot before it was released, then somehow they "valmorphinised" it to look like it does.
We'll wait and see, but I can see a huge market for the indians and asians.