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27-07-2016, 01:39 AM | #1 | |||
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27-07-2016, 02:04 AM | #2 | ||
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Apart from the obvious issue that what Dowling knows about cars could be written on the bum of an ant (so we can basically assume he has simply parotted their promotional data.)
Technology is great when used appropriately. If you need the computer to stop you smashing into a wall, you should never be allowed behind the wheel of a car. And I mean NEVER. All that technology will do is encourage morons to tailgate more and pay even less attention to the road. I would like to see seats equipped with needles that jabbed idiots in their bum every time they started playing with their iPhone, or moved the mirror so they could do their makeup, etc. That would be progress. |
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27-07-2016, 08:18 AM | #3 | ||
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The move to PC and LED screens for dashboard for things like speedo and rev counter does not fit well with me. I like looking at a decent analog dash with speedo and rev counter, although I do like a digital read out of speed to carefully monitor speed in sensitive speed restricted areas.
Sorry this dash is just UGLY and cheap looking. Like comparing a cheap LED watch to an analog rolex.
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27-07-2016, 09:13 AM | #4 | ||||
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27-07-2016, 12:19 PM | #5 | |||
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What would you suggest is a better option? steer it away into trees, a ditch?
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28-07-2016, 11:56 AM | #7 | ||
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Topic covered earlier ^^
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27-07-2016, 09:47 AM | #8 | |||
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27-07-2016, 12:26 PM | #9 | |||
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But we are talking about the latest luxury car from a major producer-designed as a luxury unit now. For me, I would like to see a more driver focused wrap around tailored binnacle dominated by large analog speedo/tacho like the Porsche big analog dials, with a digital speed readout in between the 2 big analog dials. Then right of the critical driver rounded binnacle with the major anlalog dials, have the huge PC touchscreen. To me the flat elongated flat dash is just fugly. No issue with the materials looking good and the leather etc. But each to their own...
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27-07-2016, 01:55 PM | #10 | |||
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27-07-2016, 08:21 AM | #11 | |||
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I used to say the same when watching simulated crash tests.. 'yeah, but what dope doesn't slam on the brakes before they smash into a wall full pelt?' And the reply was: * Someone that fell asleep behind the wheel * Someone that had a sneezing fit * Someone that had a heart attack * Someone that got a full face of sun before a bend Cars have never been safer with all the tech, while it may make some drivers complacent it benefits the vast majority that are just normal drivers.
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27-07-2016, 08:49 AM | #12 | ||
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Ah Yes, But will it combat the kamikaze kangaroo at 120? Oh well back to the drawing board.
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27-07-2016, 10:22 AM | #13 | ||
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Talk to anyone in the marketing/PR department of almost any company and they will tell you that most Journos use the companies press release.
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27-07-2016, 09:47 AM | #14 | ||
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Gee this even makes the latest commodore seem lacking in technology. Puts the last falcon in the Stone Age.
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27-07-2016, 10:04 AM | #15 | ||
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Its not like the latest commodore is loaded with tech, i cant even understand why neither falcon nor commodore even got Xenon head lights?
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27-07-2016, 10:28 AM | #16 | ||
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Good logic, install a huge touch screen in the center of the dash and all of the crash technology to go with it so when you are busy tapping away on the screen and crash the car will save you. How about just remove the screen and the technology will not be so required...
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27-07-2016, 11:04 AM | #17 | |||
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27-07-2016, 11:05 AM | #18 | ||
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Some weird logic in this thread. Why would you question a manufacturer consistently pushing safety technology.
Some great safety advancements being made by Mercedes. Did all drivers suddenly become complacent when seatbelts were invented? In a few years no doubt Hyundai / Kia / Mazda will have ripped off the technology so John Caddgan can make a You tube clip saying that Hyundai is making better cars than Mercedes "on objective criteria" and you are an idiot and a "brand snob" if you buy Mercedes instead of the no-frill copy. Which manufacturer is consistently making motoring safer? It's really only ever been one, every other manufacturer is just copying them. If I had the means I'd be in a MB for my daily duties, and happy to pay the premium. |
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28-07-2016, 12:26 AM | #19 | ||||
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The problem is that "tech" has become sexy (including a lot of so-called safety tech) so companies like Mercedes just push Tech for tech's sake. That way the doctors and lawyers can feel justified charging you $500 an hour, because they need to upgrade their Merc to the latest model. Quote:
How do heated armrests make the cars safer? So clearly NOT all added technology makes a car safer. We need to analyse and understand HOW people will respond to the technology. It IS in fact entirely conceivable that if a given technology promotes riskier behaviour, then it could actually be detrimental to safety. Advancements that make cars safer in the event of a crash are good (except for the whole airbags firing lethal projectiles into your head thing) because people will still try to actively avoid crashes. Similarly, advances that improve handling, braking, etc, in emergency situations are generally good. (I have observed a modern tendency that young drivers don't taken enough extra care or allow extra space in wet weather because they trust their ABS too much, but I'd say at worst they are still marginally better off.) But I have my doubts about advances that encourage complacency and dangerous behaviour because of a mistaken belief that the car will ALWAYS save you. In all seriousness, i would like to see the following: (And I believe some vehicles already have these)
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28-07-2016, 06:53 AM | #20 | |||
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Please direct me to the part where I say heated armrests are a safety feature? I referred to seatbelt...no idea how you came up with heated armrests, guess that is why i'm not Crazy Stefan. Merc has always been at the forefront of safety tech....all those engineers working for them unfortunately don't work for free the cost gets amortised in the vehicle that is sold (i.e. its gets more expensive). |
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28-07-2016, 09:21 AM | #21 | |||
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27-07-2016, 01:50 PM | #22 | |||
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With the classic grille and the upright three pointed star bonnet emblem - as all Mercedes sedans should - this car looks very classy and elegant. Pity I don't have a spare 100K ...
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27-07-2016, 11:12 AM | #23 | ||
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More driver aids can only be a positive. The heads up display with projected current speed and speed limit is on top of the list for me. Every car should have this and will in the future. Give it a few years and I will be able to write reports while the car drives me to work.
Can't wait for the day. The daily drive to and from work is a wasted 1.5 hours that I could be charging for.
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27-07-2016, 01:56 PM | #24 | ||
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I think it looks great. Mercedes always puts BMW interiors to shame. I wouldn't mind an E400, especially when it gets the 3.0 inline 6.
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27-07-2016, 03:54 PM | #25 | ||
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This new E-series looks impeccable from the outside, the interior... not so much. That giant LCD panel looks completely out of place, has more than a hint of afterthought.
I'd much prefer a Tesla for the money.
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27-07-2016, 05:31 PM | #26 | ||
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I hate to be a Mechanic these days lol
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27-07-2016, 06:41 PM | #27 | ||
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If this new merc cant detect pokemon from 100m away....then......meh!!!
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27-07-2016, 11:08 PM | #28 | ||
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27-07-2016, 08:12 PM | #29 | ||
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It looks like a nice car but how complicated do they need to make it ? Troubleshooting and repairing this is going to be fun . Most of the headline tech "advancements" are optional in their complex equipment package system.
Even if you look at the tech on offer - hardly anything of practical value. Having said that i don't even use cruise control let alone auto headlights on my car so i am probably in minority. Hopefully they engineered a way to replace one of those 84 individual headlight LEDs without replacing the whole headlight. It is scary that they consider Australia to be perfect for autonomous driving due to our policing of speed.It means car will drive itself to your work while you are going to be served latest infotainment on your 100 inch screen. Considering how many can't let go of their phone while driving it is going to be a hit. |
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