The demise of I6 Ford engine.

[sbutler]

I know this has been done to death, but. I wonder if the Geelong made I6 motor will vanish forever? It's one of the world's best inline six's ever built, so why would Ford just dump it? There must be other country's that need a 190+kw engine, & a 270 turbo six for some Ford performance models somewhere??
My god this engine has been compared to the BMW six FFS !

[P6LTD351]

It is one of the best 6 Cylinder engines in the world. Fact.

It is over. Fact.

[rdmr]

Originally Posted by eb2monty

It is one of the best 6 Cylinder engines in the world. Fact.

It is over. Fact.

Hey don't kill it before it is dead!
It will still be in production until 2016.
For the 2014 Falcon it will be updated.
It is still alive!

[P6LTD351]

Originally Posted by rdmr

Hey don't kill it before it is dead!
It will still be in production until 2016.
For the 2014 Falcon it will be updated.
It is still alive!

Lol, you know what i meant. It's on death row. I call it "The dead engine running"

[jpd80]

In the last three years Ford has sold over 400,000 F150 Ecoboost V6 trucks
along with countless Taurus/MKS, Flex, MKT, Explorer V6 Ecoboost vehicles.

The beauty of the V6 EB engine is that it fits North/South as well as East/West.

[Ibanezteve]

Having owned both mentioned engines, and they both are brilliant, I wouldn't compare fords donk to BMW's brilliantly engineered I6!

[Crazy Dazz]

They're ALL Dead Dave

[Road_Warrior]

I give 0 carefactors for the V6.

I might get an Orion (or is the 2014 model called something else) I6 engine to permanently mount to an engine stand for my pool room

[Resurrection]

The I6T will be the engine which will be missed the most. I plan to get a F6 in 2016 with manual gearbox. That one will be a keeper.

[mik]

the inline 6 really has been the back bone for the falcon, V8's have come and gone but grandpa's axe in various stages of development has been there from start to finish.

[Bossxr8]

Doesn't matter how good it is, if it not made in the USA it ain't worth jack.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Doesn't matter how good it is, if it not made in the USA it ain't worth jack.

And that's one big reason I won't buy an imported Ford. IMO Ford USA have damaged their brand with this decision. If they at least allowed some access to their market they would at least be as good as GM is to GMH and could redeem themselves a bit. But we are nothing to the yanks. :(

[Road_Warrior]

What upgrades is the I6 actually getting? Just some fuel efficiency tweaks or..? Obviously Euro V is out.

[jpd80]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

What upgrades is the I6 actually getting? Just some fuel efficiency tweaks or..? Obviously Euro V is out.

Slower idle speed to reduce fuel consumption on urban cycle.

[Bossxr8]

I haven't even seen one yet.

[damo6]

Being somewhat new to this brilliant engine( GMH most of my driving life) has the l6 been put into anything other than cars,utes,vans etc over the years and not something like light trucks, that sort of thing?
As for the above comment about being built in the USA or it ain't worth jack? Even though they are mexican built but yank designed, every lifter rattling,piston slapping LS engine owner( myself included x4 of them) would have something to say about that!

[Giant Cranium]

Originally Posted by damo6

Being somewhat new to this brilliant engine( GMH most of my driving life) has the l6 been put into anything other than cars,utes,vans etc over the years and not something like light trucks, that sort of thing?
As for the above comment about being built in the USA or it ain't worth jack? Even though they are mexican built but yank designed, every lifter rattling,piston slapping LS engine owner( myself included x4 of them) would have something to say about that!

I think his comment was sarcasm

[FPV GTHO]

I think for any first world manufacturer to pick it up theres limited appeal. It still needs higher emissions certification, its not too practical in a passenger vehicle due to its size and the lack of love for large cars globally and its not too practical as a performance engine due to its underbore layout.

Somebody wanted to use them for airport tugs, if Ford let the tooling go they might get used for agriculture, generators, forklifts etc. Something to take advantage of the low end torque and smoothness.

[TMC]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

I think for any first world manufacturer to pick it up theres limited appeal. It still needs higher emissions certification, its not too practical in a passenger vehicle due to its size and the lack of love for large cars globally and its not too practical as a performance engine due to its underbore layout.

Somebody wanted to use them for airport tugs, if Ford let the tooling go they might get used for agriculture, generators, forklifts etc. Something to take advantage of the low end torque and smoothness.

Euro 5 and further is well within reach of this engine. R&D made some direct injected and normal injected versions to test for Euro 5 capabilities and the normally injected engine passed Euro 5. EcoLPI is currently Euro 6 as it is.

[ryeman]

Originally Posted by FPV GTHO

I think for any first world manufacturer to pick it up theres limited appeal. It still needs higher emissions certification, its not too practical in a passenger vehicle due to its size and the lack of love for large cars globally and its not too practical as a performance engine due to its underbore layout.

Somebody wanted to use them for airport tugs, if Ford let the tooling go they might get used for agriculture, generators, forklifts etc. Something to take advantage of the low end torque and smoothness.

Long stroke engines dominate now due to reduces emissions (more restricted flame area) ....can anyone name a current short stroke mass production engine?

[mash again]

Just wondering if the computer and wiring loom for that motor would make a barra conversion easier if it is programable that is. would be a spare part surely.

[4.0i OHC]

Originally Posted by ryeman

Long stroke engines dominate now due to reduces emissions (more restricted flame area) ....can anyone name a current short stroke mass production engine?

Exactly, the trend is moving away from high revving short stroke engines for this very reason. However the trend also includes downsizing and turbocharging.

I don't see what makes the I6 so "old tech". Yeah sure it might share the bore spacing with the original 1960 Falcon but that's just an arbitrary number. If anything inline 6s are better, more advanced technology than V6s.

[FPV GTHO]

Originally Posted by ryeman

Long stroke engines dominate now due to reduces emissions (more restricted flame area) ....can anyone name a current short stroke mass production engine?

Never heard of this shift to under square. Most ground up design engines are typically square though. Needless to say whether a mule passed emissions, the EcoLPi meets the levels or its easy to do, the engine still isn't certified. Even the 4 cylinder is currently only Euro4 for local use. It's all still money that somebody else would have to spend ontop of purchasing the tooling and rights and the oil pump gears and conrods are still junk for over 6000rpm.

[Road_Warrior]

Running it straight off natural gas or bottled LPG (those big domestic bottles) for a generator or power station in a remote area would work well. Plus the engine and the management system has all the smarts to prevent overheating, plenty of torque for high load applications etc

[tweeked]

No one will be looking for a heavy, long stroke, N/A six of 4 litres.

Small capacity and turbocharging is what it is about now. Even BMW wont have an N/A six soon.

It was a great engine in its time, but the new age is here

[baboon]

Just keep the oil clean and coolant up and the I6 Ford engine will never die!

[SPArKy_Dave]

An imported version of the Barra DOHC, is sold in the states for use as a stationary pump/generator engine.

https://ai-engines.com/industrial-en...g-1068/gsg-640
https://sites.google.com/site/edifor...es-Home/gsg640


and for use in US forklifts -

http://www.tamengines.com/forklift_ford.html

[Road_Warrior]

Originally Posted by SPArKy_Dave

An imported version of the Barra DOHC, is sold in the states for use as a stationary pump/generator engine.

https://ai-engines.com/industrial-en...g-1068/gsg-640
https://sites.google.com/site/edifor...es-Home/gsg640


and for use in US forklifts -

http://www.tamengines.com/forklift_ford.html

Well bugger me. Learn something new every day.

Hey Boss, what's the story, have you been doing any of these or are they from somewhere else?

[Bossxr8]

Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Well bugger me. Learn something new every day.

Hey Boss, what's the story, have you been doing any of these or are they from somewhere else?

First i've heard of it too, I never even knew they were being sold for these sorts of applications. That must indicate how tiny the numbers are.

Unless they are being purchased from dealers as complete engines.

[Brazen]

What ever happened to the engines being used in airport tugs?