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16-07-2012, 12:00 PM | #1 | ||
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As per the title...
I have a shell that I want to re-use in the future, but currently has no front end / diff etc. I don't have the time to put the standard stuff in it in order to move it.. What's the best way to go about it to avoid damage? I have tried a few companies and everyone either wants it to be rolling, or for me to get it on the truck.. Would me and a few mates be able to lift it? It does have doors and windows at the moment but I could remove these.. So essentially it'd be a bare shell with front and rear windows, steering rack (which I can remove) and a few bits and pieces in the engine bay... (BTW - It's an AU) The car is in a garage at the top of a driveway, so there is no way of using a crane / forklift etc.. Thanks in advance.
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16-07-2012, 12:10 PM | #2 | ||
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put it on a car rotisserie and winch it on to a flat-bed truck.
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16-07-2012, 12:17 PM | #3 | |||
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16-07-2012, 12:47 PM | #4 | ||
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Thanks guys, didn't Sadly I have no welding equipment (or skill) to build a rotisserie and very limited time available to relocate it. Might have a look and see if i could buy one locally.. Unless anyone has one I can borrow to move the car!
I might have a look to see if i can find a Dolly that suits, didn't think of that!
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16-07-2012, 12:11 PM | #5 | ||
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Build some form of dolly? even if just some heavy duty casters attached to some RHS?
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16-07-2012, 01:10 PM | #6 | ||
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16-07-2012, 01:13 PM | #7 | ||
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The problem is getting into onto a back of a tray.
The only way a tow truck driver can do this, is by dragging it and it will cause damage, roll it on with rims attached to the car, or lift it on via forklift/people. My suggestion would be, get around 10 or so mates, and see if you can lift it above everyone head. It is going to be hard to even get it on the back of the tray that way. You could try and put this back on to a car trailor also, instead of getting a truck. |
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16-07-2012, 01:15 PM | #8 | ||
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Maybe lifting it onto a tandem trailer would be easier than a truck. And blocks of wood to sit it on, and tie it down.
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16-07-2012, 01:18 PM | #9 | ||
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You could probably use some "Go Jacks" like the V8 Supercars have, they are about $190 each from Super Cheap Auto, they're rated at 680kg each, you'd probably get away with 2, 1 each side at the centre under the frame, & balance the load front & back. They might come in handy for moving it around later on, when you get it to rolling shell stage. They're called Vehicle Positioning Jacks at SCA.
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16-07-2012, 01:19 PM | #10 | ||
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might be a long shot but if you purchase 2 engine stands and some steel box section you might be able to drill holes in the box section so that you can bolt the steel to the stands and then to the car
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16-07-2012, 06:49 PM | #11 | |||
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Thanks for the replies, because I am on top of a steep driveway I figured a tilt tray would be able to back up my drive and get the tray close to level to make it easier to get it on.. I am currently contemplating some boat jockey wheels and bolting them to the chasis (watts link bolt holes, and somewhere close to the front).. I can't see why it wouldn't work, right?
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16-07-2012, 06:58 PM | #12 | ||
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Could you be a little creative with some thick timber / MDF board and the largest castors you can buy??? That way, at least you can swivel it around.
You can buy a car rotisserie on ebay but will cost a bit and take time to arrive.
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16-07-2012, 07:12 PM | #13 | ||
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How strong and big is your garage?
Chain and tackle each end, lift car as high as possible, back tilt tray up to garage, extend tray into garage and drop the au onto it |
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16-07-2012, 07:17 PM | #14 | ||
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4-6 guys should be able to lift a bare au shell onto a trailer, or tilt tray no problems
assume you stripped it you must have a engine crane pick the front up with the engine crane get a tilt tray driver to hook onto the engine crane and get 3-4 mates to lift the back up as its dragged onto the truck |
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16-07-2012, 08:38 PM | #15 | ||
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Surprising how strong shoping trollies are !!!
Call your local tow centre.. Not much they havn't done.. A couple of floor jacks ? Yes engine stands with steel beam bolted between the two so they don't fold... Slipping an old diff under rear would help big time.. Use a rope attached to snatch block so it doesn't get away... I wasn't kidding about trollies..
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16-07-2012, 09:01 PM | #16 | ||
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If you've got a pole up the back of the garage, could you possibly use the cable from the tow truck around it, hook/tie it to the back of the AU somewhere that way the speed can be controlled all the way down the drive...?
Then use some steel and heavy duty castors to roll it with... That's how I've done it before anyway
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16-07-2012, 09:06 PM | #17 | ||
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Sorry to say, but if you don't have time to slap a few bolts onto the car to keep the diff in place, then you'll have no time to make any castor wheels or the like. Lifting the whole shell with a bunch of mates is dangerous. That's if you can even get a decent grip etc. They would still weigh a good 3-400kgs. Slap that diff under the bum, and two mates plus yourself will be able to lift and steer the front wherever you like. It will be faster and easier than making up a dolly.
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17-07-2012, 11:10 AM | #18 | |||
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Thanks for the suggestions, going to ponder this a little more today..
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At the moment I am contemplating something like this: http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Boat-Trai...item3f1996313b Sadly time is NOT on my side, so if i could grab some of these over the weekend I could potentially have it out of my garage next week...
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17-07-2012, 10:36 AM | #19 | ||
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yes putting a diff and struts is probably the easiest, it has the rack still in. and you have to be able to move it at the destination as well.
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17-07-2012, 11:21 AM | #20 | ||
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You should be able to rig something up where you can lift it with 2x engine cranes and then roll a car trailer under it and tie it onto some blocks of wood?. Or just one engine crane and some humans to lift the back up.
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