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I'd love to serve and right now I'm in the best shape I've ever been. I'm at uni and not tied down with a part time job, naturally the Army Reserve seems to suit my purpose but I'm not sure how well it will fit in with studies (the only real hurdle is the 28 day continuos at Kapooka which would probably need to occur partially in mid year break, is this feasable? IET is not a worry because 2 weeks of tutorials and lectures can be caught up on.
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My workmate joined the reserves at the start of this year, and quite a few of my uni mates do it.
Depending on your University, time served can warrant extensions on stuff. And trainings at Kapooka are held several times a year, depending on sign ups for each one. Best idea is to go to a YOU session, and speak to one of the Officers there about your concerns ![]()
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Serious question:
What exactly do you do in the Reserves? Do you get a qualification for anything or is it just prac, excersizes and weapons training 'just incase'? |
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Depends on what courses and what part of the reserves you join. |
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Reserves is the same as the fulltime army, but without the 18 months in Duntroon, and the commitment. Effectively, when my mate has his Officer stripes, he can go to fulltime, and be an Officer there.
The trainings are more full on, but there's less of them, and you reap the benefits (ie home loans, etc), you get after twice the time as fulltime. That's my understanding anyway. I'd ask him, but he's up in Kapooka right now so I can't check.
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Is there an age limit to joining the Reserves? Last edited by Kryton; 28-11-2011 at 05:07 AM. |
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This couldn't be further from the truth, make sure you get the facts right before posting in here as you have provided thedutchman with some very questionable words. First off, reserves is nothing like the ARA (Australian regular army). They are a totally different ball game, but i wont get into that. You would only go to Duntroon if you sign up as an officer, not as a digger.Effectively your mate can not go straight into the regs and be an officer, there is many fulltime courses that he would be required to do before he can make the transition to full time. The training in choko's (reserves) is no where near as full on as the training that is done in the ARA. You have to remember people sign up to be reserves for a lifestyle and a change on the weekends, not for a full on job. thedutchman92 from what you have asked mate it looks like you would like to do it to get some service time up and have some fun. There are many jobs in the army and the only two jobs that get to blow stuff up, shoot things and do all the fun stuff, is the infantry and combat engineers. Of course there are other jobs that do those things but not as commonly as these two. I would recommend you sign up as a rifleman if this is what you want from the reserves. As a reservist you have the army at your feet, you make it work for you, they cant tell you when and where you have to do things. You can get specialist courses but it is very rare for a choko to get any unless it is required for that unit. for example, you would only get a land rover code if your unit required it for an exercise coming up. There is many budget cuts right now so reserve units have hardly any resources to use as the ARA is scrounging every cent to try and fund there training. Bunyip is on the money for ready reserves, as long as you maintain your AIRN you will receive your payments. There is a catch though as there is an amount of hours you need to do each year to maintain the payments. i know alot of my mates that have discharged from the ARA have transferred over to ready reserves and say its easy money. If you have any questions shoot me a PM mate, Fordomatic |
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clearly, this was wrong. Until one reads this, direct from the officer info page "Army Reserve (ARES) Officer Training Both the GSO and the SSO courses can be undertaken on a part-time basis (Army Reserve - ARES). The topics studied by regular and reserve officers (GSO and SSO) are the same, except in the case of reserve officers (who undertake the Ares GSO FAC – Army Reserve General Service Officer First Appointment Course) there is a need for more flexible study and learning arrangements in order to achieve the same level of competence as a regular First Appointment officer." So unless I'm reading that wrong (which is possible, I'm knackered), he'll be doing exactly the same training, over a more flexible period of time, to gain the same qualifications as FAO. What would be the point of doing that training again?
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Do it. You will get training in management, decision making and HR that will help you in almost anything you will do for the rest of you life.
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The biggest draw card is that defence now use the Global payroll system to pay reservists, which means your pay is either wrong, or doesnt appear. But like the QLD health system they are "working on it".....
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haha thanks Flappist. Any idea what the grub is like at kapooka? (I like enjoy food quite alot haha). Also does anyone know if after you enlist and clear medical and psych can YOU chose the best time for Kapooka (within reason)?
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I did it for 6 years, beginning in 2003 when I was a uni student. Overall the uni/army combo worked well for me and for many others. From memory before enlistment I was able to choose from a list of dates one which suited me - I went in the 4 week mid year break (offered to cater for students), and since it was a six week course then I had some catching up to do when I got home. Tell your recruiter your requirements and you should get a good outcome. Get onto it early though, a lot of people get stuffed around in the recruiting process so you want to give yourself plenty of time. The other thing you could try - not sure if they still do it - Direct To Unit (DTU). The recruiter sends you along to a unit to check out and spend time in before you do your basic training at Kapooka. You're limited in the activities you can participate in but at least you get to see how it all works beforehand. A lot of other reservists were students too so taking the odd choco weekend off to attend to studies wasn't out of the ordinary, but having said that, be as organised as you can and plan your homework so you can get the maximum army time you can, don't be that guy who likes to tell his mates he's in the army but never goes! Rifleman was great, of course I'd recommend it over anything else, but guys from other corps will say exactly the same thing about their own.
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Rover training was the more likley scenario for us. However vacancies on courses were scarce, and the ones we got on always got canned at the last minute. Your chances would depend heavily on the unit at the time and the budget available I guess (pre-deployment training is a different story though). Those of us that had the ticket had limited opportunity to use it anyway across the average training calendar. This was just my experience and others might have more to add to this. If you just want to drive machines every day you'd be better off in transport (not that I'm suggesting you should mind you :P)
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As a reservist you choose when you want to go... your not a full timer (dont let them fool you into thinking you HAVE to go when they tell you)
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Food: Dunno, but I've heard both good and bad.
In the reserves you sign up for the weekends trainings/month/week long trainings that suit you best, they do have a guideline in finishing times for certain roles, but this can be changed within reason. The key point to remember about the Reserves is your not locked in, and the ADF knows that this is a part time job, usually for some extra cash/experience, so they're pretty sweet with all that.
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As a serving member... Don't be fooled by the silver lining of bonus this extra that....
Oh and just cos your in the army doesn't mean you get to blow things up and shoot stuff... ![]()
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Just as a guide, what roles besides rifleman are available for the Melbourne area, I'm pretty sure on rifleman but signals might also interest me.
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Not sure mate i'll have a look at work tomorrow for you if you like?
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That would be much appreciated mate, cheers
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Hi
I joined the reserves at the beginning of last year for similar reasons as you. I wanted something to do that fits in with uni, meet some new people, get fit and learn skills and do things that I otherwise wouldn't have done. Also I felt that I wanted to be trained in case Australia would be attacked one day. The reserves has been great. One of the best decisions I've made. I would definitely recommend it. If your not sure what you would like to do in the army Id recommend the engineers, put stuff together and blow stuff up. Excellent. And Kapooka? The foods good but not as good as what mum cooks. because so many people in the reserves go to uni there is always a course run during the semester break June/July. Don't judge the army by your experiences at kapooka, not that its a bad place but trust me you will have had enough after 28 days. The real army is alot more satisfying and enjoyable than training. |
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try doing kapooka for just shy of 3 months....
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Do the non-transport corps personnel get trained in driving army vehicles vehicles such as the unimog or is it a specialisation?
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This is the home loan assistance scheme:
http://www.dhoas.gov.au/www/html/462-home-page.asp The age limit to join is about 55 I think. Check out: http://www.defence.gov.au/ http://www.defencejobs.gov.au/ |
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ually had a bit of a look earlier on (after i asked about the age limit) and found that the age limit is mostly 60.
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Only transport get to drive all the veh's mate, and engineers get to drive a few, other than that if you don't need it you won't get the code.
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