FG XR6 Sedan Now available with Egas.

Smoke Pursuit · 02-04-2009, 11:49 AM

During Quarter three production, Ford is proud to announce the availability of E-Gas with DSC option on the FG Falcon XR6 Sedan. This outstanding addition will further enhance the FG Falcon XR by offering sports design styling as well as lower fuel costs**.

The XR6 E-Gas sedan will complement the G6 and G6E E-Gas models by offering the important benefits of large car space, technology and comfort with lower fuel costs than a Toyota Corolla#.

With the introduction of DSC on E-Gas-powered models, the entire FG Falcon sedan range will be equipped with the latest in chassis control systems, ensuring every model in the range comes with a five-star safety rating from ANCAP^.

Road_Warrior · 02-04-2009, 11:56 AM

Is this the same old mixer ring LPG system, or a new one??

Dr Smith · 02-04-2009, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Road_Warrior

Is this the same old mixer ring LPG system, or a new one??

Just thinking the same as I thought the timing is altered when DSC is activated in a petrol model and the old e-gas technology wasn't happy with timing changes...wonder what's changed?

imugli · 02-04-2009, 12:10 PM

Same old, I imagine...

FalconXR6 · 02-04-2009, 12:27 PM

Personally, I don't see the point of an XR on gas.
But it may appeal to some...

Would be nice to see the marketing guru's take a shot at the 'rolla by advertising the fact that this thing will be cheaper to run.

vztrt · 02-04-2009, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by FalconXR6

Personally, I don't see the point of an XR on gas.
But it may appeal to some...

Would be nice to see the marketing guru's take a shot at the 'rolla by advertising the fact that this thing will be cheaper to run.

A lot of XR6 sales are fleet sales (as it holds its value better then the XT). So an EGAS model will move quite well. Unfortunately we wont see an injected system on the XR till mid 2010.

**Bluehoon** · 02-04-2009, 01:26 PM

Very good move and only makes the falcon more competitive.
Ford really are starting to become competitive and challenging the opposition.

Cheers

AUIIForte · 02-04-2009, 12:38 PM

I think this is an awesome move. They should have been doing this a long time ago!

Smoke Pursuit · 02-04-2009, 12:51 PM

Yes... Its the same system but now has DSC attached to it.

LeadFoot81 · 02-04-2009, 12:58 PM

You know they'll shell a crap load of these! A genius move, although I'm sure alot of people on here will see it as tarnishing the once mighty XR6 badge a little more...

Smoke Pursuit · 02-04-2009, 01:21 PM

Yep they will sell quiet a few, the XR6 Egas utes have proven to be popular, its just a shame that they limit the options on them, like Luxury pack / 18 inch alloys.

351capri · 02-04-2009, 02:41 PM

how about egas option on the territory? they'd sell a few more then..

gtfpv · 02-04-2009, 02:45 PM

extremely interesting as . i have had a quote to lease an fg xr6 . with 5 speed auto . i will now reconsider and look at the E'GAS . is it a 4 speed auto ?
the other thing is i wont openly consider E'GAS . as for leasing ? lpg aint much cheaper . and i think people have said the 195 kw auto FG can cruise at 5 to 7 ltres/ 100kms on highway.
i'd like to see a comparison of the fg with 157kw e'gas 4 speed, economy wise . and drivability differances .
however E'GAS will have better resale . also what is the cost of the E'GAS option .
horses for cuorses? it may be negligent to get e'gas unless your looking at resale . or logevity ?

however very very good move by ford .

Smoke Pursuit · 02-04-2009, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

extremely interesting as . i have had a quote to lease an fg xr6 . with 5 speed auto . i will now reconsider and look at the E'GAS . is it a 4 speed auto ?
the other thing is i wont openly consider E'GAS . as for leasing ? lpg aint much cheaper . and i think people have said the 195 kw auto FG can cruise at 5 to 7 ltres/ 100kms on highway.
i'd like to see a comparison of the fg with 157kw e'gas 4 speed, economy wise . and drivability differances .
however E'GAS will have better resale . also what is the cost of the E'GAS option .
horses for cuorses? it may be negligent to get e'gas unless your looking at resale . or logevity ?

however very very good move by ford .

LPG XR6 wont be avail till 3rd quarter, so Jul - sep production.

DSI are still manufacturing 170 4 speed units a day i believe...

gtfpv · 02-04-2009, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by bfiipursuit

LPG XR6 wont be avail till 3rd quarter, so Jul - sep production.

DSI are still manufacturing 170 4 speed units a day i believe...

thanks .
i notice also there is another thread on AFF about further improvements to the FG PETROL ENGINE. as of april 1st this year . making it the same economical equivelant to a toyota 4cyl camry. . i'm really wondering how viable this FG E'GAS OPTION will be . back to the drawing board for me .
also i have had to sideline my lease due to economic employment uncertianty! ( maybe a gifthorse in hindsight) or hinderance . silently spewing .

GK · 03-04-2009, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

I think people have said the 195 kw auto FG can cruise at 5 to 7 ltres/ 100kms on highway.

That's awesome economy if it's true.

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

i'd like to see a comparison of the fg with 157kw e'gas 4 speed, economy wise . and drivability differances.

Same.

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Originally Posted by gtfpv

however very very good move by ford .

Totally agree!

Ford are doing some good stuff. I'd gladly have an FG XR6 on gas. Gas doesn't tarnish the XR name at all. It just makes them more accessable to those who want some of the goodies of XR ownership with less running costs.

GK

Bearman · 02-04-2009, 03:39 PM

Good move, but will it have the 5 speed auto or the crappy old crudbox 4 speed?

vztrt · 02-04-2009, 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Bearman

Good move, but will it have the 5 speed auto or the crappy old crudbox 4 speed?

Wouldn't be running the 5speed yet, as Ford said they have enough 4sp's.

Smoke Pursuit · 02-04-2009, 04:24 PM

Yes, it seems lots of people are getting layed off at the moment.. Ive got to go repossess some XR6 company cars thisarvo for one of my clients who just sacked some management!

Iggypoppin' · 02-04-2009, 05:54 PM

I have always hated EGAS. Makes it feel taxi-pack. But it's a good thing regardless, as it's going to boost sales. An injected gas system would be nice, and please get rid of the rubbish 4spd. Oh so outdated.

XR6_190 · 02-04-2009, 08:35 PM

Regardless of what people think about the old gearbox, or the lower power rating, this is a good thing for Ford, and can only boost sales. Also, as for the whole 'tarnishing the XR6 name' thing, there is still the XR6 Turbo burning off V8s everywhere. so if anything, the XR6 badge is healthier than it has ever been.

Phyber · 03-04-2009, 01:49 AM

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there is still the XR6 Turbo burning off V8s everywhere

Love that

I'd love a factory DI LPG XR6T more though I think?

jaimex2 · 03-04-2009, 02:43 AM

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Love that

I'd love a factory DI LPG XR6T more though I think?

Its the only thing missing, and if I get one will be the first thing I install on it after warranty runs out.

LeadFoot81 · 10-04-2009, 09:58 AM

Yeah but what has the XR6 become? A poverty pack with bling? They've created a new legend and rubbished the old hero. XR6 used to mean something special, now its just an S-Pack. The flow on effect of Ford doing that to the XR6 model is that most of the XRs you see on the road now are family runabouts, you're lucky if you see an 8 or a Turbo. In effect the whole range has been tarnished, not just the XR6.

As for selling cars to joe average non-enthusiast, Ford should get the best possible 21st century gas system into the each XR (6,T,8 sedan and ute) asap! Might even sell some to the hardcore enthusiasts...

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Also, as for the whole 'tarnishing the XR6 name' thing, there is still the XR6 Turbo burning off V8s everywhere. so if anything, the XR6 badge is healthier than it has ever been.

PoweredByCNG · 10-04-2009, 11:37 AM

Personally I'd never touch an E-gas until the fuel system is upgraded to SVI or LPI and the ZF 6HP 26 transmission is made optional. There's plenty of room for improvement for the 14.9L/100km combined consumption figure.

Regards,
Dave

gtfpv · 10-04-2009, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PoweredByCNG

Personally I'd never touch an E-gas until the fuel system is upgraded to SVI or LPI and the ZF 6HP 26 transmission is made optional. There's plenty of room for improvement for the 14.9L/100km combined consumption figure.

Regards,
Dave

thanks i've been waiting for some specs to be posted . cheers .

Bearman · 03-04-2009, 07:37 AM

Well, I wouldn't get one until they replace that rubbish 4 speed transmission.

Also, how about an e-gas Territory?? That'd be a good seller you'd think.

OzJavelin · 03-04-2009, 07:46 AM

They'll be selling these faster than they can make them. N/A XR6's aren't a performance car .. they are a car to make people think they are slightly better than their neighbours who bought the pov-pack FG XT .. which is probably actually slightly faster 'cos it weighs less. These XR6 owners will love LPG and won't care if it's a conventional system, SVI, liquid, etc, etc ...

gtfpv · 03-04-2009, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by OzJavelin

They'll be selling these faster than they can make them. N/A XR6's aren't a performance car .. they are a car to make people think they are slightly better than their neighbours who bought the pov-pack FG XT .. which is probably actually slightly faster 'cos it weighs less. These XR6 owners will love LPG and won't care if it's a conventional system, SVI, liquid, etc, etc ...

better than the nieghbours car . ohh really. i was kinda thinking the look of the xrs body kit , interior and suspension over the xt is what makes people buy them . ummm performance wise 195kws is kind of v8 supercar ( road ) of 10 years ago. . 157 with a 4 speed is kind of 10 year old 6cy tech . still good . but sux gas at huge rate .
people will buy regardless .
but one must really look at the savings viability . remember the aussie built 4 litre is the pinnicle aussie engine with loads of technoligy to date , petrol wise . LPG IS NICE but we need to compare economy, power loss, luxury deletions like modern gear boxes . , purchase price, and lpg taxes and prices compared to petrol.

OzJavelin · 03-04-2009, 01:58 PM

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better than the nieghbours car . ohh really. i was kinda thinking the look of the xrs body kit , interior and suspension over the xt is what makes people buy them .

Yep .. agreed .. the fluff is why they buy them.

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ummm performance wise 195kws is kind of v8 supercar ( road ) of 10 years ago. .

.. and exactly the same as every other N/A 6cyl non-LPG Falcon?