Driving XR8 on P's?

ST · 15-07-2008, 03:25 PM

Just wondering if anybody knows anyway I can get an exemption (apart from work vehicle, tradie, hardship) to drive a v8 on my p's? I missed the July 1st cut off by 2 months.

I found an absolutely perfect 2001 220kw XR8 and am trying to drive it legally.

Thanks for any help,
Tim.

**Professor Farnsworth** · 15-07-2008, 03:29 PM

tough, unfortunately for you. Missing the cutoff means just that, you missed the cut off. I don't see you being able to get an exemption purely because you 'want to'. If that were the case, the law wouldn't have been passed.. Although a 220kw xr8 would be a nice car to have as a first car, it's hardly necessary. Just do the time and look forward to driving something else when you're legally allowed to.

FlipXW · 15-07-2008, 03:30 PM

Sorry champ. Your chances are about 0.

ILLaViTaR · 15-07-2008, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSW

Just wondering if anybody knows anyway I can get an exemption (apart from work vehicle, tradie, hardship) to drive a v8 on my p's? I missed the July 1st cut off by 2 months.

I found an absolutely perfect 2001 220kw XR8 and am trying to drive it legally.

Thanks for any help,
Tim.

My mate bought his V8 1/2 a year before the new laws.
Still couldn't get an exemption.

Kryton · 15-07-2008, 03:59 PM

just think, when you are allowed to drive one, they will be even cheaper again.

GS608 · 15-07-2008, 04:00 PM

In QLD you can get an exemption if you've owned the car (or it has been in your family) for 3 or more years. You've got bugger all chance unless you can apply for hardship somehow, But because your in VIC im assuming it'd be a lot harder to get an exemption there than up here.

MitchG · 15-07-2008, 05:00 PM

You might be able to get an exemption if you need to drive your car to & from work (if you have no other means of transport), but that might be about as far as you can go & you might get a curfew as well, better then nothing i spose....

ST · 15-07-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchG

You might be able to get an exemption if you need to drive your car to & from work (if you have no other means of transport), but that might be about as far as you can go & you might get a curfew as well, better then nothing i spose....

That's basically what I really need it for at the moment, driving to work. So I can get an exemption from that? Would you know how?

MitchG · 15-07-2008, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSW

That's basically what I really need it for at the moment, driving to work. So I can get an exemption from that? Would you know how?

If there is no one else in your family who has a car you can drive legally & you dont live near public transport you MIGHT have a case for hardship...

http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/NR/rd...mptionform.pdf

J_Tank · 15-07-2008, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by MitchG

If there is no one else in your family who has a car you can drive legally & you dont live near public transport you MIGHT have a case for hardship...

hardly.. he hasn't bought the car yet. The response will be the car is banned , you knew it was banned, you could have bought another, you bought it anyway, go away.

ayeyew · 15-07-2008, 04:58 PM

Remove 2 cylinders?

Sorry mate

I was looking at going down a similar path, but my enquiries got me nowhere :(

ST · 15-07-2008, 05:05 PM

Yeah I originally went in may, but I had the worst tester (who has actually been 'relieved' late last year for unacceptable test conduct or something to that extent, he was fired for not passing anyone) and then I had the SAME tester in June who once again failed me.

I'm just wondering would I be able to dispute the fact that I had the same tester twice? And maybe get an exemption in that regard?

MitchG · 15-07-2008, 05:08 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSW

Yeah I originally went in may, but I had the worst tester (who has actually been 'relieved' late last year for unacceptable test conduct or something to that extent, he was fired for not passing anyone) and then I had the SAME tester in June who once again failed me.

I'm just wondering would I be able to dispute the fact that I had the same tester twice? And maybe get an exemption in that regard?

I dont think it matters you got your Ps after july 1st, the rule still applies, power to weight ratio etc...

MitchG · 15-07-2008, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by ayeyew

Remove 2 cylinders?

Just out of curiosity is that possable to govern an engines output power?
like disconnecting turbo etc, then getting a mechanical certificate to confirm it?

**Falcon Coupe** · 15-07-2008, 05:19 PM

http://fordforums.com.au/showthread.php?t=11226309

Why would you need an exemption when you only started looking for the car this month ?
You are already aware of the rules.

Azzman460 · 15-07-2008, 05:32 PM

correct me if i'm wrong but i thought the july 1st cut off means no v8's and no turbo's. Having been on my P's for 2 years now i still go by the old power to weight ratio so i can drive a turbo or an 8 so long as its not to powerful or the capacity is to large.

MitchG · 15-07-2008, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Azzman460

correct me if i'm wrong but i thought the july 1st cut off means no v8's and no turbo's. Having been on my P's for 2 years now i still go by the old power to weight ratio so i can drive a turbo or an 8 so long as its not to powerful or the capacity is to large.

So going by that you can drive an XR5 turbo which would probably be quicker then alot of V8s providing you obtained your P's before july 1st?

XR5 turbo
166KW
Weight:1366
Your power to weight ratio (kW per Tonne):122

ST · 15-07-2008, 05:34 PM

No need to get on your back foot, i'm simply asking a question. I need a new car and i'd like an 8 before it's too expensive to run one. I was just wondering if there was any way I could, if not it's fine.

Edit: To Falcon Coupe

**Falcon Coupe** · 15-07-2008, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RTSW

No need to get on your back foot, i'm simply asking a question. I need a new car and i'd like an 8 before it's too expensive to run one. I was just wondering if there was any way I could, if not it's fine.

Edit: To Falcon Coupe

Who is on the backfoot ?, i was stating the facts.

Never mind being expensive to run, what i did was buy frugal car for daily driving and the keep the hypo stroker V8 for weekends

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ST · 15-07-2008, 05:41 PM

Oh and also i actually thought i'd beaten the cut-off point originally, that is why I looked at the car etc. Until I actually went to make sure it was all good and I found out I was 2 months late.

snappy · 15-07-2008, 05:46 PM

Not sure about the new rules they may have changed this but you were aloud 130 or 140 kw (cant remember exactly) to the tonne . otherwise debadge the car an pray you don't get pulled over .
Witch might be a problem being a p-plater and in victoria.
Although i used to ride a bike that was over powered for p-plates and all i recieved was a $170 fine after getting busted. Car's probly differ though.

boss-290 · 15-07-2008, 06:30 PM

You can't drive a v8 so bad luck.

Thank your P plate predecessors

FPV8U · 15-07-2008, 06:41 PM

Not a chance mate, had you got it before the new laws maybe, but after...

I had mine when i moved back from WA a tthe age of 18, even then after owning the car for nearly a year, it was like trying to get blood from a stone getting my exemption from vicroads... but i did get it.

schultzie · 15-07-2008, 06:49 PM

it was 140kw per tonne, so yes the xr5 was legal under the old system.

id say you have buckleys in getting an exemption... except if u maby brought up about the assessor being fired ect... that would help i woud think

da_ilks · 16-07-2008, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by schultzie

it was 140kw per tonne, so yes the xr5 was legal under the old system.

id say you have buckleys in getting an exemption... except if u maby brought up about the assessor being fired ect... that would help i woud think

The law was 125kw per tonne, or an engine capacity of 3.5L per tonne. This meant slugs like 308 VB - VL Commodores, and 302 Falcons were also prohibited, even though they were slower then V6 VN's :togo:

To the OP - no chance. Even if you got consideration due to your crummy tester, you'd still go under the old restrictions and a 220kw AU would fail under power to weight.

AUXRVIII · 15-07-2008, 08:22 PM

The no V8 and no turbo rule for P platers in Vic actually started from July 1 2007, not 2008. I was doing research for and apprentice who got his licence in May, only to disappoint him with the news. He still owns his turbo ride and drives.

Redrum · 17-07-2008, 05:37 PM

As stated, for those that missed the cut off being June 30th 2007 P platers cannot drive Turbos/V8s etc. Nil exemptions unless you are a police member. For those prior to that date the power to weight applies, this still applies to post June 30th too.

schultzie · 15-07-2008, 08:28 PM

that was the only way i managed to get my gf to get her licence a couple years ago.... told her about that and that she wouldnt be able to drive my subaru, it worked she had her licence a month later

schnoods · 15-07-2008, 08:55 PM

Get a cheap run around till you get off your P's, then its open slather.

Insurance will be cheaper, you wont get targeted, cars will be cheaper in a year or 2, you can upgrade to a BA for around the same price...

Either that, buy a cheap daily and a project car, by the time your off, you should have nice streeter ready, if your into that sort of thing.

15-07-2008, 09:26 PM

Don''t drive a high powered car on your P's. I was driving a V8 and someone reversed into the back of my car while I was stationary in a carpark.

I was legitimately parked properly, but chasing the money through insurance wasn't easy. There was a good chance the claim wouldn't have even gone through had it not been for the other party caving.

I wasn't even driving the bloody car. Imagine what would've happened if I was. Plus, if you're in Vic and get caught driving high powered, you'll lose your licence on the spot. 3 points for the power and 3 for the P plates, btw if you drive a car like that with P's, you won't make it out of your driveway.

Learn to drive a lowered car really hard first. Take a few driver training courses or get a motorbike. Best possible training ever. Your P's are a learning period.