Maloo vs Xr8 in Motor mag

DABOSS · 12-01-2008, 09:40 PM

Has anyone had the chance to read the latest write up in the Motor mag I think it was , Maloo supercharged 422Kw 728Nm and the XR8 390Kw 500Nm.

Important Figures are Maloo 0-100kph 5.3 1/4mile 13.3.. XR8 0-100 6.5 1/4mile 14.5sec.

Based on those figures it's very dissapointing to same the least. A stock XR8 would of been quicker. :togo:

**Dave R** · 12-01-2008, 09:44 PM

6.5 seconds for an XR8 with close to 400Kw?? And only 500Nm? Doesn't sound right.

theunfairadvant · 13-01-2008, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

6.5 seconds for an XR8 with close to 400Kw?? And only 500Nm? Doesn't sound right.

Yeah i agreed something fishy is going on.

MITCHAY · 13-01-2008, 03:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

6.5 seconds for an XR8 with close to 400Kw?? And only 500Nm? Doesn't sound right.

That is very odd! Very slow for 400kw. My WRX is faster than that not even trying really. Surely that has to be a mistake

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13-01-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Adrenaline

6.5 seconds for an XR8 with close to 400Kw?? And only 500Nm? Doesn't sound right.

What absolute rubbish! Theres no was it can only have that much torque seeings that is the stock figure. That was the first thing i noticed after I had bought my copy. GOOD WORK MOTOR!

mik · 12-01-2008, 09:44 PM

the xr8 must have had a couple plug leads off to give him a chance

Jorgo85 · 12-01-2008, 09:44 PM

Do you mean 290kw? Pretty sure 500nM is the stock figure

**Peuty** · 12-01-2008, 09:46 PM

Yeah I thought the same thing when I read that. Especially when the Herrod kit is around fifteen grand. Quite slow indeed for that kind of coin.

prydey · 12-01-2008, 09:46 PM

those figures are all a bit out for the ford. a std boss 260 has 500nm so thats not right. acceleration figures are also std looking.

haven't read the article so won't comment on bias. often when the times are a little off they do give a reason for it.

i'm not one of those guys who gets upset when ford don't win every comparo. driving cars is more than straight line speed.

Lukeyson · 12-01-2008, 09:48 PM

yeah it said the XR8 had 500nm from 2000-3700rpm, or something like that !

SVTVNM · 12-01-2008, 10:26 PM

How is that a fair comparison?

SpoolMan · 12-01-2008, 10:30 PM

XR8 IS 260KW The Maloo is what how much?
Shouldn't they be comparing a Super Pursuit to a Maloo?

SVTVNM · 12-01-2008, 10:32 PM

That's what I think, I suppose got to give em something to brag about.

Bossxr8 · 12-01-2008, 10:42 PM

Obviously wheelspin stops them running a decent time. Both cars delivered figures that are about the same as stockers would get. Feathering the throttle to get traction must be a foreign concept to Motor.

vanman_75 · 12-01-2008, 10:50 PM

the test was in the wet never gunna get times doing that . i was surprised they even printed it . may as well say id fall faster if i didnt have a parachute on .idiots first time ive bought it in a long time but will be even longer before i will again

Force6 · 13-01-2008, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by vanman_75

the test was in the wet never gunna get times doing that . i was surprised they even printed it . may as well say id fall faster if i didnt have a parachute on .idiots first time ive bought it in a long time but will be even longer before i will again

It definitely was a pretty odd write up. I get the feeling it wasn't really a comparison, just a 'review' two products/packages offered by reputable tuning houses of both brands.

And what the hell was with the 500Nm XR8? Maybe that's at the wheels..

Pedro · 13-01-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by vanman_75

the test was in the wet never gunna get times doing that . i was surprised they even printed it . may as well say id fall faster if i didnt have a parachute on .idiots first time ive bought it in a long time but will be even longer before i will again

I've read the whole story. It's just another "MOTOR" infomercial for Holden.
It was a wet track and the only reason the Holden got a "better" 1/4 mile time was that it has 22" wheels (less slippage). We all know how hard it is to get a car with a bit of grunt off the line when it's wet.

I might add the front cover showed both vehicles, but wait ... the Maloo image was in front of the XR8 image and twice as big ... funny about that.

Had to laugh though ... a reader's letter complained about the predominance of Holden front covers.

I don't usually buy this extension of Holden publicity masquerading as a motor magazine, but I've been laid up with a crook back and asked my wife to buy me something to read. LOL.

DABOSS · 12-01-2008, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

XR8 IS 260KW The Maloo is what how much?
Shouldn't they be comparing a Super Pursuit to a Maloo?

Well , in the mag it writes that Herrod said " starting with a 290 isn't that much better anyway , you cant get them that much better then the 260.
thats why they went the 260 path.

looking at that it may be better to purchase a 290 and install bolt ons.

But as spoolman said they should of had a SP vs the maloo , or XR8 vs SS, very holden sided mag..

But how good does the GTR look and perform, cant wait for it to be released on sale.

56L · 13-01-2008, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by SpoolMan

XR8 IS 260KW The Maloo is what how much?
Shouldn't they be comparing a Super Pursuit to a Maloo?

I can remember MOTOR mag testing an auto pursuit250 against a Holden/CSV special vehicle ute because holden or motor mag refused to do a test between the pursuit250 and maloo.
The funny thing is that the pursuit 250 beat it haha

looks like nothing has changed over the years with GMH/MOTOR mag

zetec · 12-01-2008, 10:41 PM

Guys guys they're both modded, it wasn't a manufacturer write up but an "tuner" one if you will. I flicked through it but didn't buy the mag, rather boring this month. I must admit, those figures definitely sound a bit off.

Steffo · 13-01-2008, 07:47 AM

Bad driving at work. 11-sec cars running 13s and 14s.

4Vman · 13-01-2008, 09:31 AM

36 deg day and slipery track was their excuse, it just goes to show how much heat plays havoc with forced induction engines..

prydey · 13-01-2008, 10:14 AM

also unless they had the engines out and on an engine dyno (possible) the quoted flywheel figures will be no more than educated guesses. the 500nm for the xr8 is obviously not flywheel. maybe they just quoted the stock figure as they didn't have a modded figure

or... maybe the ford had a higher nm figure than the maloo so they decided to edit it. jk!

what style supercharger did herrod run on the xr8? whipple? intercooled? guess i should just find a newsagent huh.

T3ts50 · 13-01-2008, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by prydey

also unless they had the engines out and on an engine dyno (possible) the quoted flywheel figures will be no more than educated guesses. the 500nm for the xr8 is obviously not flywheel. maybe they just quoted the stock figure as they didn't have a modded figure

or... maybe the ford had a higher nm figure than the maloo so they decided to edit it. jk!

what style supercharger did herrod run on the xr8? whipple? intercooled? guess i should just find a newsagent huh.

I think it was the Yella Terra PD blower.

Steffo · 13-01-2008, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by 4Vman

36 deg day and slipery track was their excuse, it just goes to show how much heat plays havoc with forced induction engines..

They make lots of excuses it seems...

Here's more of their bad times...

14.4 in FPV GT
14.2 in FPV F6 Typhoon
13.36 in Lamborghini Gallardo
12.4 in Porsche 911 Turbo (996)
14.5 in SVT Cobra (01, SN95, 322hp 4.6)

There are more... but those examples spring to immediate memory...

atec77 · 13-01-2008, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by DABOSS

Has anyone had the chance to read the latest write up in the Motor mag I think it was , Maloo supercharged 422Kw 728Nm and the XR8 390Kw 500Nm.

Important Figures are Maloo 0-100kph 5.3 1/4mile 13.3.. XR8 0-100 6.5 1/4mile 14.5sec.

Based on those figures it's very dissapointing to same the least. A stock XR8 would of been quicker. :togo:

Motor Mag ?
nah I wont waste my money on such biased rubbish especially when I can use the cash for a popsical.

Werd. · 13-01-2008, 01:28 PM

MOTOR = Failure.

ST · 13-01-2008, 02:00 PM

Yeah I read this and unfortunately it just shows how biased they are towards Holden and more importantly away from Ford. The 500nm torque figure is absolutely ridiculous and an intentional 'slip-up'.

I think i've had enough of them now.

Grechie · 13-01-2008, 02:16 PM

ummm does that mean i can keep up with a 390kw XR8? I think not !

MOTOR you suck.

Airmon · 13-01-2008, 03:14 PM

I tried to keep a level head with all the accusations of MOTOR being Holden biased lately, Even when the spy pictures of the ute made the front page, but what tipped it over the edge for me was when the same bloke wrote 2 articles in 1 issue.
1 article "The F6 R-Spec is definately not a racer and is not good around a track blah blah", ok fair enough, a few pages over.
"The handling on the new Holden ute is supurb, its like a proper track car"....... Wtf?

Holden SS ute out handle F6 R-Spec?