How we can help the Falcon

Brazen · 03-02-2012, 11:33 AM

Warning: Lamest FordForums thread ever!

Some of us might not be in the financial position to buy a new Falcon, but I think there are little things we can do to help. Here are just some suggestions.

Post a positive article or review about the Falcon on your Facebook page. If 300 members do it and about 80 friends see the title or read the article, we have made a positive impression on 24,000 people!

Write to your member of parliament and premier in each state, insisting they buy Australian more - this could really help Falcon, Territory and Falcon ute. Make them take notice that some people see this as an issue.

When you rent a car, upsize to the Falcon or ask for a Falcon when booking. This will cause more agencies to buy Falcons or get the kms up making them change them over more often.

If you have access to a fleet or pool vehicle, always take the Falcon. Most fleets changeover vehicles at a km limit. The more km you put on the Falcon the more they need to change them over and the less they will change over the other cars.

Join the fleet committee or suggest the Falcon to fleet buyers at work. Many are not car enthusiasts and some wouldnt realise that a LPG Falcon is cheaper to run than a Prius. At my work I was instrumental in having my work decide to replace over 90 Hiluxes nationwide with LPG RTVs, which unfortunately nver materialised as Ford didnt make the RTV with the introduction of FG but still it shows the difference we can make.

Bring brohures into work, I work mainly from home but last time in the office I left FG brochures in the tea room they have been flicked through at least a few dozen times. It just helps raise awareness and even if they dont buy a car - someone they know might be.

geckoGT · 03-02-2012, 11:56 AM

I have one idea.

I have noticed that recently anything negative about Falcon gets posted here and then 90% of the responses here feed the negativity, how about we be a bit positive.

Sometimes I wonder if we are Falcon's own worst enemy.

Bossxr8 · 03-02-2012, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by geckoGT

I have one idea.

I have noticed that recently anything negative about Falcon gets posted here and then 90% of the responses here feed the negativity, how about we be a bit positive.

Sometimes I wonder if we are Falcon's own worst enemy.

Maybe its time the mods started to remove the whingers who only come onto AFF to spread doom and gloom and post negative post after negative post.

There's a few here who would give Paul Gover a run for his money I reckon, because they bought a Falcon 10 years ago and it had a few problems, or their neighbours, cousins, boyfriend bought a BA and had a problem with it, so all Falcons must be junk

stang65 · 03-02-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Bossxr8

Maybe its time the mods started to remove the whingers who only come onto AFF to spread doom and gloom and post negative post after negative post.

There's a few here who would give Paul Gover a run for his money I reckon, because they bought a Falcon 10 years ago and it had a few problems, or their neighbours, cousins, boyfriend bought a BA and had a problem with it, so all Falcons must be junk

I suggested this and my thread was closed.

Bossxr8 · 03-02-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by stang65

I suggested this and my thread was closed.

Some people will try to say that people have a right to an opinion, but when their only opinion is to bag Ford/Falcon at every opportunity time after time after time, surely there must be a point when the mods can say enough.

Especially when they do it to get a reaction.

**Polyal** · 03-02-2012, 11:57 AM

I quite frequently link up good news stories about Ford/Falcon on FB. I also try and encourage people to atleast take a falcon for a test drive when looking for a new car.

Writing to parliament is not such a bad thing, but I would hope someone in Ford is actually responsible for following things like that up.

Every little bit helps.

mik · 03-02-2012, 11:59 AM

it`s not a lame thread at all , our local products don`t get the credit they deserve imo.

geckoGT · 03-02-2012, 12:01 PM

I think it is a great thread, a good opportunity to bring in some sunshine to all the doom and gloom.

**Polyal** · 03-02-2012, 12:05 PM

I think all of the threads about doom and gloom can either be bundled in one or just left until they get close to making a decision...I mean its still 4 years away!

Wretched · 03-02-2012, 01:11 PM

I'd like to see many here put their money where their mouth is and actually buy a NEW Falcon.
I am referring to the people who are so adamant about supporting the Falcon and put down others who buy anything but; yet they're the ones waiting for Falcons to hit the second hand market.

joolz · 03-02-2012, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

I'd like to see many here put their money where their mouth is and actually buy a NEW Falcon.

I did in June 2009 and still very happy with my FG XR6. Next car will be the Territory Diesel when $$$ are saved. Id rather buy a car that is mostly made in Australia too keep the local jobs going.

aussie muscle · 08-02-2012, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Wretched

I'd like to see many here put their money where their mouth is and actually buy a NEW Falcon.
I am referring to the people who are so adamant about supporting the Falcon and put down others who buy anything but; yet they're the ones waiting for Falcons to hit the second hand market.

i'm still waiting for my new XR8..

duaned · 03-02-2012, 01:56 PM

Spot on Wretched. I helped Ford by buying a new Falcon in December, but sadly it will be my last aussie car from this company. Poor build quality and materials have made the decision for me.

MAGPIE · 03-02-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

When you rent a car, upsize to the Falcon or ask for a Falcon when booking. This will cause more agencies to buy Falcons or get the kms up making them change them over more often.
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I've always done this anyway.

I also use Hertz (do Ford still own Hertz?) and get the Ford Corporate discount.

MickyB · 03-02-2012, 02:05 PM

I like all your suggestions Brazen. Another that I frequently do is follow all the automotive pages like Wheels, Drive.com.au etc. on Facebook. Whenever they have a post that is of relevance to Ford, I make sure I comment in the most positive way possible. Every little bit helps.

Majestic · 03-02-2012, 02:11 PM

should a vehicles existance really have to rely on ford fans to push their opinions on other people to survive? A good product will always sell itself IMO

RedHotGT · 03-02-2012, 02:14 PM

Ford are their own worst enemy - by making cars previously that we love and enjoy so much...

Why would I want to go and buy a new car when the old ones i've got still fit the bill, still don't miss a beat, and still make me smile everytime I drive them??

They need things like the EcoBoost, the Diesel Territory, and the other models, to appeal to new buyers that haven't experienced the Ford experience...

Have you Driven YOUR Ford Lately?

EgoFG · 03-02-2012, 02:21 PM

IMHO

Every Post give it a positive slant

Become active on other forums with a positive Falcon outlook

Counteract the press, provide Ford free advertising (they seem too stupid to know they have the best product for the Australian market)

Especially on this forum (OP included).

MITCHAY · 03-02-2012, 08:09 PM

Well realistically your only option is to buy a NEW Falcon or service your OLD one at a dealer. All well and good to have an opinion but unless you're putting down the money Ford probably don't care.

falconnut · 03-02-2012, 08:09 PM

Its really up to ford to advertize their own products

Spammy · 03-02-2012, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by falconnut

Its really up to ford to advertize their own products

They do advertise them - but it would appear they have given up advertising Falcons on TV (except 2011 build date sales). I'm sure they would advertise Falcons if they thought it would lead to more sales.

falconnut · 03-02-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Spammy

They do advertise them - but it would appear they have given up advertising Falcons on TV (except 2011 build date sales). I'm sure they would advertise Falcons if they thought it would lead to more sales.

I am sorry but when FoA cant even be bothered advertizing on TV and grumble about record low sales i really couldnt care.

nstg8a · 03-02-2012, 08:13 PM

even if you cant afford a new falcon, a second hand one is still a good thing... think about it, who would buy a new one if there was noone buying second hand ones.
think resale is brutal now, imagine if there was no market for that 2-3 year old car.

Rico 110s · 03-02-2012, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Brazen

Warning: Lamest FordForums thread ever!

When you rent a car, upsize to the Falcon or ask for a Falcon when booking. This will cause more agencies to buy Falcons or get the kms up making them change them over more often.

Join the fleet committee or suggest the Falcon to fleet buyers at work. Many are not car enthusiasts and some wouldnt realise that a LPG Falcon is cheaper to run than a Prius. At my work I was instrumental in having my work decide to replace over 90 Hiluxes nationwide with LPG RTVs, which unfortunately nver materialised as Ford didnt make the RTV with the introduction of FG but still it shows the difference we can make.

Bring brohures into work, I work mainly from home but last time in the office I left FG brochures in the tea room they have been flicked through at least a few dozen times. It just helps raise awareness and even if they dont buy a car - someone they know might be.

Funny how you write that we need to ask for a falcon when ordering your renter, every time I try to get a renter Falcon they tell me there are none available and get stuck with anything other than what I want.
And it would not hurt for Ford to do another RTV as I know alot of people that like the concept but dont really need a proper 4wd.
If they did sales would be improved.

.FoMoCo. · 03-02-2012, 08:28 PM

I would like to see this myth that falcons and ford in general have poor build quality, bad QC, bad materials, and other such garbage to be put to bed once and for all.
Is there any basis for these negative claims? All brands have problems with failures. Every single one of them.
How can we convince these doom and gloom peddlers that FOA is no worse than their competitors?

nstg8a · 03-02-2012, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by .FoMoCo.

I would like to see this myth that falcons and ford in general have poor build quality, bad QC, bad materials, and other such garbage to be put to bed once and for all.
Is there any basis for these negative claims? All brands have problems with failures. Every single one of them.
How can we convince these doom and gloom peddlers that FOA is no worse than their competitors?

ummm, driven a modern japanese car lately? or a euro? theres no doubt falcon (and commodore) arent quite as well finished as other brands.

i love my fg, but there is definietly some dodgy areas to them.

Spammy · 03-02-2012, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by .FoMoCo.

I would like to see this myth that falcons and ford in general have poor build quality, bad QC, bad materials, and other such garbage to be put to bed once and for all.
Is there any basis for these negative claims? All brands have problems with failures. Every single one of them.
How can we convince these doom and gloom peddlers that FOA is no worse than their competitors?

My commodore is screwed togther much better than my wife's Territory, my neighbour's Hyundai is better than my Commodore.

Neither the commodore or or Hyundai have rust - the Territory has lots.

.FoMoCo. · 03-02-2012, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Spammy

My commodore is screwed togther much better than my wife's Territory, my neighbour's Hyundai is better than my Commodore.

Neither the commodore or or Hyundai have rust - the Territory has lots.

Mate, ive seen plenty of commodores falling apart prematurely, diff and driveline clunks, clearcoat failure, electrical faults, coil failures, and on it goes.

Also drove a brand new i30 for 2 weeks last year, gutless, horrible gearbox, NVH levels very high, tinny construction, overrall cheap feel to it.

It's a myth about Ford's being substandard. Not sure how its gained so much traction while other brands have recalls all over the shop.

nstg8a · 03-02-2012, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by .FoMoCo.

Mate, ive seen plenty of commodores falling apart prematurely, diff and driveline clunks, clearcoat failure, electrical faults, coil failures, and on it goes.

Also drove a brand new i30 for 2 weeks last year, gutless, horrible gearbox, NVH levels very high, tinny construction, overrall cheap feel to it.

It's a myth about Ford's being substandard. Not sure how its gained so much traction while other brands have recalls all over the shop.

id rank falcon and commodore as equal build quality, despite hyundais success they are still a budget brand.
compare the quality to a 'normal' brands like toyota, honda etc, even euro fords are markedly better built and specified.

imo its just part of trying to be a viable car maker in a tiny market place. costs have to be trimmed where they can.

Spammy · 03-02-2012, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by .FoMoCo.

Mate, ive seen plenty of commodores falling apart prematurely, diff and driveline clunks, clearcoat failure, electrical faults, coil failures, and on it goes.

Also drove a brand new i30 for 2 weeks last year, gutless, horrible gearbox, NVH levels very high, tinny construction, overrall cheap feel to it.

It's a myth about Ford's being substandard. Not sure how its gained so much traction while other brands have recalls all over the shop.

I never said commodores don't have problems or that Hyundais drive like a rolls royce. My comment is that they are both better built than my Territory.