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Old 26-01-2008, 08:09 AM   #1
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Default Petition to end HD-DVD/Blu Ray format War

Since Blu Ray has 83% of the High Def market, and only two movie studios to full switch over, if you are like me, and just want HD-DVD to just be dead and done so we can all enjoy more High Def movies, click this

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Old 26-01-2008, 08:43 AM   #2
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No doubt about it - Blu Ray winning, indeed won.
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Old 26-01-2008, 11:11 AM   #3
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No doubt about it - Blu Ray winning, indeed won.
I wouldn't bet on it, HD-DVD is doing alright in the USA. They are going to drag this "war" on for a while.
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Old 26-01-2008, 06:34 PM   #4
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I wouldn't bet on it, HD-DVD is doing alright in the USA. They are going to drag this "war" on for a while.
I don't know where you heard that HD-DVD is doing well in the US. Blu Ray is outselling it over 5:1, everyone at Best Buy and Circuit City are telling customers to get Blu Ray, Target in the US dropped HD-DVD all together a few months ago. Blockbuster only support Blu Ray. For a while I thought dual formats was the way to go, but Samsung have axed the dual format player, leaving LG to make the only dual player on the market. The player sucks, even if you did like LG as a brand. I do agree they will drag it out as long as they can though, but it's Universal and Paramount that need to sign the papers to take HD-DVD off life-support.
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Old 27-01-2008, 06:59 PM   #5
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... Blu Ray is outselling it over 5:1, .
US figures and only for the first week of January and that only due to BR players being given away for free with TV purchases. Until Warner went BR exclusive, it's been a lot closer for player sales. And the movie split has been even closer depending on the title releases at the time.

I can't see HD DVD "winning", and that is unfortunate given it is a finished format and for us Aussies being regoin free, makes it possible to get cheaper movies from the US.
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Old 28-01-2008, 07:44 PM   #6
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I can't see HD DVD "winning", and that is unfortunate given it is a finished format and for us Aussies being regoin free, makes it possible to get cheaper movies from the US.
Yes, a real shame that gullible people buy whatever is spoon fed to them as what they need, instead of making a decision for themselves. PS3 sales have also driven the Blu-Ray sales, and again this is marketing.

I have neither, and at this point in time have no plans to race out and buy one player or the other. I don't need either format, and am in no hurry to grab a PS3 (or Xbox360 for that matter).

In addition....online petitions do SFA, as the whole thing is publicity for products and both sides will drag it out as long as possible.

As for sales people advising which way to go.....99% of them give advice based solely on personal preference, or incentives from manufacturers and distributors. Since only about 1% of sales people actually have any clue about the product they are perfectly matched to advise a similar ercentage of consumers.
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Old 26-01-2008, 11:32 AM   #7
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Oh no..... Beta.
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Old 26-01-2008, 11:54 AM   #8
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Vote 1 - BETA
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Old 26-01-2008, 12:26 PM   #9
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The way HDDVD sales are going the end isnt toooo far away I'm guessing...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compari...l_disc_formats

Pity HDDVD is the one thats looking like losing.. had some good features like no region coding for one!
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:15 AM   #10
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Pity HDDVD is the one thats looking like losing.. had some good features like no region coding for one!

I thought Blu-Ray Discs are region-free too... ?

EDIT :- actually they do... What I meant was... PS3 games are region-free.
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Old 26-01-2008, 01:23 PM   #11
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Well it wouldn't suprise me, how much advertising for HDDVD do you see in Australia compared to Blu-ray? I have not seen ONE advert about HDDVD.
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Old 28-01-2008, 07:35 PM   #12
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Well it wouldn't suprise me, how much advertising for HDDVD do you see in Australia compared to Blu-ray? I have not seen ONE advert about HDDVD.
HD-DVD and Ford use the same marketing team ;)
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Old 26-01-2008, 01:26 PM   #13
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I havn't seen one for Blu-Ray either though...
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Old 26-01-2008, 01:27 PM   #14
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Its all over the place in the cinemas, in your face when you walk into JB-Hifi or Harvey Norman etc etc.
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Old 26-01-2008, 01:38 PM   #15
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Nah I want to listen to The Betles my 33 speed vinyl and watch movies on my Betacord VCR
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Old 26-01-2008, 03:59 PM   #16
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76 is where its at.


Wasnt one of them going to ban porn from using the format. That would make them the choice for a lot of people with kids.
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Old 26-01-2008, 03:19 PM   #17
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Blu Ray has it won. With warner bros heading to Blu Ray others will follow. HD lucks out.
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Old 26-01-2008, 04:24 PM   #18
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Exactly what do u think some internet petition will achieve?
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Old 26-01-2008, 04:27 PM   #19
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When the war is over and the dust has settled, I'll move in and buy a revised edition of the winning format player. I don't give a toss what format that is.
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Old 26-01-2008, 04:51 PM   #20
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Which ever one the porn industry exclusively goes with will be the winner.
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:17 PM   #21
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Which ever one the porn industry exclusively goes with will be the winner.
From what I remember hearing the porn industry went with HD DVD, so thats out the window.
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:23 PM   #22
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Which ever one the porn industry exclusively goes with will be the winner.

Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.
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Old 28-01-2008, 12:34 PM   #23
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Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.
Who would have thought getting your knickers off could end a war?
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Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.
Yeah, they were talking about it in one of my PC USER magazines. But i think that industry is moving towards internet distribution (I'm no expert on the matter)
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Correct, at this stage they are leaning towrads HD-DVD. If this happens then Blu-ray will be dead.
I doubt that the porn inductry will have as much influence this time round as it did in VHS vs Beta considering how easy it is to download it off the net nowadays.

IMO though HD DVD is dead, its being outsold comprehensively everywhere and WBs decision to go Blu sealed the deal, watch Paramount and Universal follow in the near future.

Also if anyone has compared the pics from CES this year of the Blu-Ray and HD DVD booths, the setup and amount of interest generated tells the whole story!

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I doubt that the porn inductry will have as much influence this time round as it did in VHS vs Beta considering how easy it is to download it off the net nowadays.
And people rip and share BD and HDDVD movies via the net too! Discs in general are a dying breed and the future is via download/streaming. I remember in 2000 seeing a feature film streamed via Boeing's encrypted satellite, direct from the 'states to a digital projector. Digital cinemas are all over the US and even at computer level there is plenty of progress on high quality online video.

We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia... thanks for nothing Johnny - we won't be waiting for you to say, "Sorry!".
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And people rip and share BD and HDDVD movies via the net too! Discs in general are a dying breed and the future is via download/streaming. I remember in 2000 seeing a feature film streamed via Boeing's encrypted satellite, direct from the 'states to a digital projector. Digital cinemas are all over the US and even at computer level there is plenty of progress on high quality online video.

We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia... thanks for nothing Johnny - we won't be waiting for you to say, "Sorry!".

True, but it will be a very, very slow process, especially with the state and quality of our internet infrastructure. Asia and the US will be in the best position to adapt it way before everyone else.

As I mentioned in my previous post, HD DVD is most likely gonna die soon...the pics here tell the whole story

http://www.tgdaily.com/index.php?opt...1&currentPic=1
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Old 30-01-2008, 02:08 PM   #28
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We just need to get our internet up to scratch in Australia...
Absolutely on the mark. As usual, we in Australia get left in the wake when it comes to household technologies. We got colour TV 10 years behind Europe and the US. Cable TV was around long before we got it. We now enjoy Internet speeds far below our overseas neighbours.
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I would of thought glasses would be needed rather than just High Definition after you go blind from feeding the chickens.

Sorry, couldn't help it.

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Old 27-01-2008, 01:55 PM   #30
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hd is dead... give it 12 months tops and nothing will be available, i expect a run out sale from places like jb on all hd stuff in the enxt 6 months...
its a better format in my opinion, butit wasnt marketed or supported anywhere near good enough...
and yes as stated aove the dual format player was having trouble with having to read both formats, it needed 2 seperate systems, which is why it never went well...
and also the consoles going with bluray was a big factor...
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