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10-06-2008, 05:26 PM
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Teh Baest
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hills Area, NSW
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So good ole Joe from CMS in Liverpool talked me into being his guinea pig for his Stg2 Cam to see if it can run on the stock AU ECU.
Basically i will be his "told you so" vehicle  He has been telling everyone forever that his stg2 cam will work on an AU without a chip/edit, but there have been a load of naysayers!He is 100% confident that it will work He already has an AU LPG Ute running around with his Stg2 cam (Apparently LPG is less reliant on the ECU?) So, Cam goes in this Saturday, dynoing before and after Expected to run like a dog for about 3-4 days, then by midweek after ECU re-learns itself, should be sweet Looking forward to it  : Will post up my results
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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10-06-2008, 06:33 PM
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10-06-2008, 07:15 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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Location: Australia
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Can't you reset the ECU to smarten up the process of relearning?
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10-06-2008, 07:49 PM
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i'll be watching this thread with a lot of interest, if it works out chances are i'll buy one too the stage 3, he reckons that will just run on the factory E.C.U until you get it in for a flash tune. I reckon resetting the computer when i put my old crow cam in sent the car into a wild confussed state, dont reset if you have to do from my paSt experiences.
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10-06-2008, 08:00 PM
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Teh Baest
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hills Area, NSW
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I remember talking to Joe about the stg3, he recommended getting a stally cuz it's pretty lopey at idle (mine is auto)
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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10-06-2008, 08:04 PM
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Good move and your dealing with a good bloke too. Joe cares about the work he does. I like Joe ,he is helpful bloke.
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10-06-2008, 08:09 PM
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see how the stg2 goes in your car, would be a bonus if it runs on factory ecu nicely, there cheap i reckon as well.
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10-06-2008, 08:15 PM
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I'll be interested to see how it goes, the Stg 2 LPG cam kicks in fairly low and breathes better all the way to redline. Hopefully one of these will play nicely with a belt-driven hair dryer...
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10-06-2008, 08:45 PM
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Teh Baest
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Hills Area, NSW
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Yep, yep Simon's ute
I think originally it was set to kick in around 2100-2200, then he had it dialled back to kick in at 1800, to come in when the stall converter locked up. I remember him saying up steep hills it had enough torque to go all the way up in last gear, didnt have to change down at all. Joe is a deadset champ. I know next to nothing about cars and he takes the time to explain everything to me. I will be spending many thousands of dollars there in my lifetime
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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10-06-2008, 09:31 PM
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Could he figure out a cam for me and my au 2xr8? or does he only do I6's
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10-06-2008, 11:10 PM
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Teh Baest
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I think i will be the first petrol AU to get one of his cams. Joe doesn't do any 5L cams as there are plenty of good ones out there he says. The reason why he does i6 cams cuz he reckons all the others are shite Quote:
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos )Last edited by ayeyew; 10-06-2008 at 11:16 PM. |
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10-06-2008, 11:49 PM
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One tip, if the idle gets gradually lumpier and richer over a period of 2-3 weeks it may be worth changing the oxy sensor. If you need to do so, you might be able to pick a genuine Ford one up for $60-odd on ebay, otherwise an aftermarket one for $100-120 from the likes of Repco or Supercheap etc. Much better than $400 from Ford!
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The Frankenfalcon... AU1.5 Wagon, BA brakes, AU2 booster, BA2 XR6T engine, stock from airbox to turbo, 8psi/98 octane tune 240RWKW, BF XR6T cat, quiet 3" zorst, Pex BSO660 & BSO439 mufflers, 84 db, built BTR box, 3.08 LSD, Emer SVI LPG, AU1 XR8 alloys, Momo wheel, JVC KDR746BT head unit, Aerpro steering wheel control wiring. Sleeper, anyone? |
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10-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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Good score mate! You hear nothing but positive things about this guy, so if he says it'll work, I'd be trusting what he says.
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10-06-2008, 11:18 PM
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This is positive feedback mate, I look forward to the results and hearing the good things from this.
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11-06-2008, 10:48 AM
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Teh Baest
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Cheers for the advice mate!
There's a group buy going on for bosch oxy sensors as we speak, $70. Think i'll pick one of them up
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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11-06-2008, 12:39 PM
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11-06-2008, 07:53 PM
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12-06-2008, 12:50 PM
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I was chatting to Joe yesterday as I was working on the ute there.
And he mentioned you were coming in to get it done. I also mentioned a trick to trying an resolve the ECU spazz when trying to relearn as well. Will be interesting to see how it goes ... I'll be back there on Monday to pick something up anyway ... so will see how things work. I picked up my Ford O2 sensor from ebay for $55 ... took 5 min to replace ... easy. Will have to see what Joe dial's the cam in like ... and where you want the power to really come in. Will be interesting to test it out on an AU ... and see if Joe's grind does work. Ummmm ... there was a mentione about XR8 cams ... Joe doesn't do a grind for it ... he mentioned to me that there are already decent cams out there for them and it was no real need for him to make one ... will ask when i am there next to see which one he thinks is best. The Stg 2 cam has been in 1 year exactly in my AU ... I just checked my Build thread ... took me a while to find it ... it's on page 13 at the top.
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12-06-2008, 09:33 PM
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I really think he needs to test this cam in a wagon.....in VIC!!!
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14-06-2008, 03:17 PM
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15-06-2008, 11:41 PM
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14-06-2008, 11:26 AM
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Teh Baest
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Dammit!
The cam which he got grinded was actually the wrong grind! So now, he has to get a new grinded cam which could take upto 2 weeks or so :( He was not very happy! Ah well.. My car pulled 123rwkw on his dyno, a REAL dyno Not too bad
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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Ask Stav ... his wagon ran 133rwkw on Joe's rollers. It's a lot quicker than that over the 1/4 Most of the time other dynos will report 15-20rwkw more than Joe's.
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17-06-2008, 01:34 AM
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The Frankenfalcon... AU1.5 Wagon, BA brakes, AU2 booster, BA2 XR6T engine, stock from airbox to turbo, 8psi/98 octane tune 240RWKW, BF XR6T cat, quiet 3" zorst, Pex BSO660 & BSO439 mufflers, 84 db, built BTR box, 3.08 LSD, Emer SVI LPG, AU1 XR8 alloys, Momo wheel, JVC KDR746BT head unit, Aerpro steering wheel control wiring. Sleeper, anyone? |
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14-06-2008, 11:42 AM
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oh no way, oh well 2 week wait do able.
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04-07-2008, 11:36 AM
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Is this still going to happen
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04-07-2008, 12:34 PM
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Teh Baest
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I'm going to ring Joe on the weekend and see what the go is. Hopefully he will have some good news for me
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1999 Liquid Silver AU Show: XR6 Kit, Low, RDA Slotted's F&B, Fully Tabouli Sound System, Altezza Tailights (Good ones!) Go: K&N Pod w/ 3" intake, XR6T Snorkel, Pacie Comp 4480's, 2.5" Cat Back, CMS Stg2 Cam, Custom Tune, Tranny Cooler Coming..CMS Stg2A Cam, 68mm TB Later.. 4.5L w/ BOOOOOOOOOOST or XR6T or AUIII XR8 220 Currently: 151kW (165 on other dynos ) |
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