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30-10-2007, 09:35 PM
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hey.. just wondering. with light modification eg. cold air intake, air filter, extractors etc which would go harder. a commodore vx s or a falcon el xr6
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30-10-2007, 09:40 PM
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BrwnBstd
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Standard s pac.. then my money is on the falcon
Supercharged option s pac.. money on the commodore |
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30-10-2007, 10:18 PM
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GUNEF
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Adelaide
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i beat a vx v6 n/a and ripped it apart.. i got a better start which helped.. i only drive a ef falcon auto.. with full exaust and cold air intake, amd some head work.. the vt,xt commos are quick off the mark in fist gear but after that the falcons come home hard.. the best thing u have to do is get a better reaction time to help your chances
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30-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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If your XR is manual you'll crush the Commo easily straight off the line, and probably also take out the supercharged Crappadore. If auto the Ford has super tall gearing hence the Commo has you off the line but you will still reel it in~
But really, who gives a flying what I think. |
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30-10-2007, 10:24 PM
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BF XR6, oh yeah!!
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Bit of an unfair fight isn't it? comparing a 1996 EL to a 2000 model VX, Shouldn't you compare VX with an AUII or a EL with a VS?
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30-10-2007, 10:30 PM
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I have run an ex cop VY and a VX with the man behind the ED and they both are even until i hit third then the falc slacs of until the proper torqe kicks in and then its buy buy holden.
also ive run them with the auto and it feels like ages even when you stall it up, but again when second kicks in then you start to take them on the higher end of the revs. ive got 3:2.3's in the diff little head shave as i changed the head gascket, a 2 1/2 inch system and a k&N filter in the original filter box. I just sit back and wait for the torqe to kick in. |
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30-10-2007, 11:31 PM
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Long live the GT !
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The FORD...don't ask me why...just believe it to be true ;)
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31-10-2007, 08:42 AM
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I've beaten a VS V6 Ecotec with extractors, exhaust and SS intake with my bog stock standard AU Fairmont Ghia. Good result considering the Mont ways some 300 kilos more.
The VX has no advantage over the EL as when the VT came in the Commodore became as heavy as the Falcon and the Ecotec is rubbish and ages really bad compared to the Falcon six I remember reading an article where an engineer was talking about the sh*te teiming chain on the Ecotec which after a few years begins to get slack and affect valve timing. Like others have said the Falcon is slow off the line (I nearly had a heart attack when a Daihatsu got the jump on me) but it won't be long before the engine is in the meat of it's torque and reeling them in. As someone with many Commodore sixes under the belt I would hedge my bets with the Falcon. I would even say that a well maintained VS has a better chance of beating the Falcon than the VX. |
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01-11-2007, 07:18 PM
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... Fear it!
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same, i've beaten my mates VZ with 80,000k'z on the clock, extractors, full exhaust and SS intake in my AU Monty when it was stock with 300,000k's on the clock ... got him going up onto the freeway upto 100k'z and i was about 2 /12 car lengths ahead! ... when i released my accelerator at 100, he just kept going and sped up the hill! so i turned around at the next exit and headed back towards Adelaide! also sat level with a BA XR6T and a worked VY SS all the way up to the lookout!
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01-11-2007, 11:44 PM
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... Fear it!
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31-12-2007, 07:47 AM
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[ also sat level with a BA XR6T and a worked VY SS all the way up to the lookout![/QUOTE]
well i guess they were resting gently on there accelerator.cause if they wanted you would have been smoked sideways. |
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31-12-2007, 08:12 AM
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I once overtook a Daewoo Matiz, the dude was running big block 800cc jap spec HKS/Spoon/Fork/Soupbowl motor, on the inside lane.
I have teh largest p3n1s. True story, bruh. |
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31-10-2007, 08:45 AM
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31-10-2007, 09:03 AM
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FF.Com.Au Hardcore
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My EL XR6 is alot quicker than my dads VX. Mines alot more responsive, and downgears alot quicker, the only advantage the commo has, it gets off the line slightly quicker. They are both autos aswell.
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31-10-2007, 10:43 AM
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why would you compare a VX to a EL?
AU >>>> VX AU XR6 >>> VX
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31-10-2007, 10:55 AM
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na i was just comparing the 2 cos i dun like the vs commo or the au falcon in terms of looks.. el xr6 is the way 2 go
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31-10-2007, 11:09 AM
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^^^ are you buying one of these cars because its faster than the other? How old are you?
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31-10-2007, 11:13 AM
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To shreads you say?!
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Streetracer23, do yourself a favor, don't pick a car on how fast it goes, your parents will miss you when you've killed yourself in a street race. Your friends parents will probably be sad if you kill your friends too.
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31-10-2007, 11:18 AM
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El Xr6 by far is the better car, i had a NL that ran mid 14's, 3.7 or 3.9 diff gears and LSD will have you smashing them off the line no drama's, extractors/exhaust are the biggest gain on the I6 (bolt on) and if you wanted to go cam you will have in excess of 200RWHP no dramas.
I6 has more torque KW and is inherently smoother engine than the V6 boat anchor, has a driveline that will handle the km's alot more than the commo as well hence the reliability with taxi cabs etc. the Xr6 is a great base and far better than the S pac at least with an XR you can tell its not the base, S/SS look like an exec with a kit if u get what i mean.
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31-10-2007, 11:38 AM
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yeh thx 4 ur advice.. n abt driving fast n all im not some idiot thats gna fly down a resedential street at 200 i just want something that goes hard. iv learned my lesson the hard way losing my license and paying fines (this was from multiple 0-15kmh over limit by 1 speed camera 4 times hidden behind a tree - got notice of the first fine and by then i had done it 4 times, and 1 big fine going 42 over but on a 4 laned highway straight as a ruler with no traffic or pedestrians present - the only danger was to myself and i appreciate and take on board that risk)... i guess this is the easy way considering what u read abt in the papers re accidents while racing and the like. im not gna put myself in that situation again. dont get me wrong im not gna be mr safe driving 40 in a 60 zone but then again im not gna hoon it around i just want something thats relatively cheap, looks good, and goes hard. isnt that what every1 one this forum wants?
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31-10-2007, 08:43 PM
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31-10-2007, 08:51 PM
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31-10-2007, 08:54 PM
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01-11-2007, 01:14 AM
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No , There's people here who enjoy Restored , Modified & Stock cars . that's why there's over 30,000 members .
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31-10-2007, 11:44 AM
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To shreads you say?!
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I think I can safely say that everyone here wants you to type in a manner that's comprehensible. Paragraphs are good too!
Is this really what the education system produces these days?
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31-10-2007, 12:10 PM
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me may my mo
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hehe cmon thats abit harsh now. I'm sure all of us at some time have wanted the faster and better looking car eh?
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31-10-2007, 12:27 PM
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We really do need an SMS speak filter on here.
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31-10-2007, 12:33 PM
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WTF LOL yeah u mak good point m8
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31-10-2007, 12:28 PM
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IT’S not that hard to read what he has typed but as some people are having difficulties here is one I made earlier:-
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